Good science here, you didnt mention that humalog actually decreases insulin resistance though. Let me find you that study. In my opinion that alone makes it the smart choice for insulin use.
Insulin resistance is one aspect of Insulin use which should never be ignored and it is alway taken into consideration in my clients. However, when an insulin user limits himself to using insulin at workout times only (sat 4-5X weekly), Insulin sensitivity is not greatly affected by humulin R use, making this a relatively mute issue. Even then, almost all of my insulin protocols call for the concurrent utilization of at least one insulin sensitizing compound.
Additionally, the topic of insulin sensitivity as it pertains to insulin adminstration is one which needs to be looked at through the perspective of risk vs reward. In this sense, although Insulin sensitivity is a health factor which must be taken into consideration, to what degree an decline is acceptable will be dependent on many factors. This makes any declaration of superiority an impossibility, when it comes to selecting which form of insulin ought to be used.
Whether the insulin is in the form of Humalog, Humulin, or Lantus...each form has it's postives and negatives and when these attributes and defects are looked at through the lense of what is ideal for the user, recommendations are easily changed. For exmaple, I usually start beginners on humulin and NOT humalog, as safety is always my #1 consideration and Humalog's fast onset of action may be problematic for a beginner. However, this advice might change once the user has more experience and safety is no longer the pressing issue it once was. At that point, depending on a variety of factors (I won't get into all of them now), either Humalog or Humulin may be selected for further use. Still, in a more advanced user, a combination of Lantus and humalog may be chosen. At every step of the way, a complete re-evaluation of the protocol's effects on both growth and health should take place.
Specifically, in regards to Insulin resistance, once a user ventures beyond workout dosing, I almost always recommend that Metformin is employed....and frequently in combination with other comppounds designed to increase insulin sensitivity. In the end, insulin resistance is just one of several factors which needs ro be taken into consideraion when determing which insulin program is ideal. Selecting a form of insulin based on it's propsensity to increase insulin reisstance alone, is not wise.
I disagree with you and thats ok. I see no need to take it pre-workout as the des does a great job of shuttling the nutrients with little risk of going hypo during an intense training session.
DES is not insulin and cannot take it's place, although it will give similar, yet dimished effects in regards to nutrient shuttling.
I also do not care for humulin because the second peak always seems to get me, try as i might, its virtually impossible for me to control it for some reason.
This can be a pain in the ass for some people, but it does show once again that proclaiming one form of insulin superior in all cases is not a good idea. Of course, this 2nd peak can be controlled, as it is only a matter of making sure the correct amount of nutrients are present in the blood during this 2nd peak, but not all users will want to deal wth it. To them, it's just not worth it, which may make using another form of slin more advantageous in their case.
And i only say all the big guys i know because these are guys who all sit close to 300lbs in the offseason, so something is working for them.
Of course something is working for them! But to infer that post-workout insulin is superior simply because they are 300 lbs is ludicrous! It is exceedingly likely we have numerous varaiables at play here, including a butt-load of AAS, GH, and Insulinl...so making any proclamation of post-workout supriorty based on their size alone is vurtually impossible. To make this inference is like saying that Deca works better than NPP because they are 300 lbs and use Deca!
Science always looks great on paper but i also like to balance it with real world results.
Correct, which is another reason why I say pre-workout administration alone is superior post-workout adminstration alone. In this case we have both anecdotal and reserach based evidence confirming each other.
I have tried it both ways and i have gotten better results post workout. This is a true statement. If you would ever post up your pics mike, we could see what results you have achieved with your protocols buddy.
I do not use them myself. I am coach; my focus goes into my clients, including pros. This type of nonsense is typical when one is challenged and can't come up with a self-percieved equally valid rebuttal. I expect more from you and won't let you get away with that shit.
And yeah, the gh and slin synergy is absolutely ridiculous. Although, i was a bit agressive on my gh dosing and got home from work last night and it looked like there was a donut around my ankle=-)
LOL.
So i cut the dose back in half for a few days and will slowly work bacl to the sweet spot.
Sounds good.