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YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO ORDER PEPTIDES MUCH LONGER!

I was really surprised when they brought them out. As Giants stated of course they will be gone soon too.


I'm not knocking these companies and truly know nothing about those products but I can't help but wonder if it's really Mk677 or something similar. You know? I've gotten some kick ass products off them before but just wonder how they could pull that off.
 
I'm not knocking these companies and truly know nothing about those products but I can't help but wonder if it's really Mk677 or something similar. You know? I've gotten some kick ass products off them before but just wonder how they could pull that off.

I would think they are different products unless they want to get shut down. Putting research liquids into capsules is illegal. Everyone knows this.
 
I would think they are different products unless they want to get shut down. Putting research liquids into capsules is illegal. Everyone knows this.

Yeah, I'm sure they name it to be similar...but I doubt its as good as the real thing.
 
I'm not knocking these companies and truly know nothing about those products but I can't help but wonder if it's really Mk677 or something similar. You know? I've gotten some kick ass products off them before but just wonder how they could pull that off.

Plenty of supp companies are currently selling SARM's in cap form and they're just as likely to be real as a research company...some of them even more so.

It's just as easy for them to pull of as a research company. In fact, many of these supp companies are having their raws made in U.S labs and assembled in GMP facilities.

It all comes down to whether or not the company wants to take risks...and in truth, it's not like research companies are taking any less of a risk. They might think they are, but they're not. After all, it's not like a research company is going to be believed in court when they say their products weren't intended from human use. The only difference is that one company "tries (unsuccessfully, I might add) to hide the fact their products are for human use, while the other company doesn't.
 
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Plenty of supp companies are currently selling SARM's in cap form and they're just as likely to be real as a research company...some of them even more so.

It's just as easy for them to pull of as a research company. In fact, many of these supp companies are having their raws made in U.S labs and assembled in GMP facilities.

It all comes down to whether or not the company wants to take risks...and in truth, it's not like research companies are taking any less of a risk. They might think they are, but they're not. After all, it's not like a research company is going to be believed in court when they say their products weren't intended from human use. The only difference is that one company "tries (unsuccessfully, I might add) to hide the fact their products are for human use, while the other company doesn't.

lmk which one
 
lmk which one

The only one I know of off the top of my head that carries MK-677 in cap form is Blackstone. However, I can't speak as to the quality of Blackstone's MK-677 simply because I am not associated with the company and have not looked into any testing that has been done. I know there are other companies, but I can't remember their names.

On the other hand, LOTS of companies are selling the other SARM's. Osta has been on the supp market for several years now, while LGD is just starting to show its face. Ironmag Research (the sister company of Ironmag Labs) sells MK-677, but IML does not. The owner of IMR was considering making MK-677 in cap form for IML, but decided against it because he believes it will only be a short period of time before the FDA pulls all SARM's off the shelf and therefore, he doesn't want to make the investment required with GMP-made products.

GMP-made supplements are MUCH more costly (especially the initial investment) than research chems because research chem are not made in a GMP facility and the minimum order can be very small. Basically, I could start a research company tomorrow, order $500 some raws from wherever, bottle it at my house/office (which many research companies do), and start selling it.

You can't do that with GMP-made products. Not only does it cost a good deal of money to have a product made in a GMP facility, but their are minimum orders, as well. I remember speaking with the IML/IMR owner a few years ago, immediately before the release of M-sten, and he told me the initial minimum investment was like 40K or something like that.

Like I said in a prior post, supplement companies can sell SARM's (research chems) just as easily as research/peptide companies. The only difference is in the perceived level of risk. It's a known fact that numerous legitimate, GMP-made, U.S. lab tested Ostarine products exist in cap form on the supp market and have for many years. Whether a supp company sells Osta, LGD, or MK-677 makes no difference, which is why supp companies are now releasing LGD and MK-677 as well. After years of selling Osta without the FDA getting on their ass, they now feel more comfortable selling other SARM's--so they are.

The inference that a supp company would/could never sell a SARM and they can only be found at research companies is ludicrous. In many cases, supp companies have MORE money to spend on products, lab testing, bottling, and advertising. It's not like these raws are hard to find. Anyone can buy them.

More so, VERY few (as in probably a handful or so) peptide/research companies have all their raws tested. In almost all cases they do only random/partial testing...or none at all. Why? Because testing is expensive. Testing every single batch or every single product at accredited U/.S labs would cost more than the raws themselves! Very few peptide/research companies are willing/able to cut into their profits like that, so they don't. Some peptide companies do ZERO testing of their own, instead opting to "trust" the company they bought their raws from--usually a bigger peptide/research company. Often, peptide/research companies simply don't have the money to do testing on all their raws, especially the smaller companies.

On the other hand, many supp companies can easily afford to have all their stuff tested at U.S labs--and many do. On top of that, many supp companies have all their products assembled in GMP facilities, which means professionally made as opposed to being made at home/in garage/in office, etc.

However, in reality, when it comes to orally administered products it doesn't matter that much where they are made, as a less than perfect production isn't going to affect the product's effectiveness or safety. In these cases, lab testing is the only critical factor.

So, you can most definitely find SARM's on the supp market...ones that are GMP-made and tested at U.S labs, with verifiable proof of testing. Some of these companies will send you proof of testing if asked, and in most cases you can call the lab for confirmation, as the document will have all the information required for verification.

The bottom line is that you can find real, properly dosed SARM's on both the research/peptide and supplement market, and it has been this way for years now. The defining difference is that one is in a liquid and the other is in cap form.
 
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Plenty of supp companies are currently selling SARM's in cap form and they're just as likely to be real as a research company...some of them even more so.



It's just as easy for them to pull of as a research company. In fact, many of these supp companies are having their raws made in U.S labs and assembled in GMP facilities.



It all comes down to whether or not the company wants to take risks...and in truth, it's not like research companies are taking any less of a risk. They might think they are, but they're not. After all, it's not like a research company is going to be believed in court when they say their products weren't intended from human use. The only difference is that one company "tries (unsuccessfully, I might add) to hide the fact their products are for human use, while the other company doesn't.


Thanks Mike. I was hoping you popped in this thread. That's what I said on another forum that the difference is not for human use and one is. The companies that got busted were busted for fraud. Selling research products under a false pretense. Right? So Blackstone might be on to something for now. They are telling the customer exactly what it is and what it will do for them. Which I assume will be okay until a bill is passed banning something.
 
The only one I know of off the top of my head that carries MK-677 in cap form is Blackstone. However, I can't speak as to the quality of Blackstone's MK-677 simply because I am not associated with the company and have not looked into any testing that has been done. I know there are other companies, but I can't remember their names.

On the other hand, LOTS of companies are selling the other SARM's. Osta has been on the supp market for several years now, while LGD is just starting to show its face. Ironmag Research (the sister company of Ironmag Labs) sells MK-677, but IML does not. The owner of IMR was considering making MK-677 in cap form for IML, but decided against it because he believes it will only be a short period of time before the FDA pulls all SARM's off the shelf and therefore, he doesn't want to make the investment required with GMP-made products.

GMP-made supplements are MUCH more costly (especially the initial investment) than research chems because research chem are not made in a GMP facility and the minimum order can be very small. Basically, I could start a research company tomorrow, order $500 some raws from wherever, bottle it at my house/office (which many research companies do), and start selling it.

You can't do that with GMP-made products. Not only does it cost a good deal of money to have a product made in a GMP facility, but their are minimum orders, as well. I remember speaking with the IML/IMR owner a few years ago, immediately before the release of M-sten, and he told me the initial minimum investment was like 40K or something like that.

Like I said in a prior post, supplement companies can sell SARM's (research chems) just as easily as research/peptide companies. The only difference is in the perceived level of risk. It's a known fact that numerous legitimate, GMP-made, U.S. lab tested Ostarine products exist in cap form on the supp market and have for many years. Whether a supp company sells Osta, LGD, or MK-677 makes no difference, which is why supp companies are now releasing LGD and MK-677 as well. After years of selling Osta without the FDA getting on their ass, they now feel more comfortable selling other SARM's--so they are.

The inference that a supp company would/could never sell a SARM and they can only be found at research companies is ludicrous. In many cases, supp companies have MORE money to spend on products, lab testing, bottling, and advertising. It's not like these raws are hard to find. Anyone can buy them.

More so, VERY few (as in probably a handful or so) peptide/research companies have all their raws tested. In almost all cases they do only random/partial testing...or none at all. Why? Because testing is expensive. Testing every single batch or every single product at accredited U/.S labs would cost more than the raws themselves! Very few peptide/research companies are willing/able to cut into their profits like that, so they don't. Some peptide companies do ZERO testing of their own, instead opting to "trust" the company they bought their raws from--usually a bigger peptide/research company. Often, peptide/research companies simply don't have the money to do testing on all their raws, especially the smaller companies.

On the other hand, many supp companies can easily afford to have all their stuff tested at U.S labs--and many do. On top of that, many supp companies have all their products assembled in GMP facilities, which means professionally made as opposed to being made at home/in garage/in office, etc.

However, in reality, when it comes to orally administered products it doesn't matter that much where they are made, as a less than perfect production isn't going to affect the product's effectiveness or safety. In these cases, lab testing is the only critical factor.

So, you can most definitely find SARM's on the supp market...ones that are GMP-made and tested at U.S labs, with verifiable proof of testing. Some of these companies will send you proof of testing if asked, and in most cases you can call the lab for confirmation, as the document will have all the information required for verification.

The bottom line is that you can find real, properly dosed SARM's on both the research/peptide and supplement market, and it has been this way for years now. The defining difference is that one is in a liquid and the other is in cap form.

Please clear box .
 
I dont know much but I know this.

**broken link removed**.

As far as RL I dont know Ive researched my ass off to NO avail.
 
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theres to much out in the open...if companies are selling these things in cap form and doing fkn IRONMAN mag interviews and advertising in mags its going to be getting way to much attention.Id like to see many boards "go dark"...lol i dont really know what this means technically but was just reading about how many US terrorists use boards and chat rooms encrypted to the point cia/fbi cant even crack them even if they seize your computer they cant see what you were up to...We just need to stay one step ahead and keep the big mouths in the industry shut out...I know plenty of people asking me if i juice or if I can get it...Ive NEVER refered ANYONE to a board as the more idiots get there hands on shit the more it becomes a problem and gets more attention.Fk them anyway take away the mk677 wich i just fell in love with...guess itll just have to be GH now lol
 
theres to much out in the open...if companies are selling these things in cap form and doing fkn IRONMAN mag interviews and advertising in mags its going to be getting way to much attention.Id like to see many boards "go dark"...lol i dont really know what this means technically but was just reading about how many US terrorists use boards and chat rooms encrypted to the point cia/fbi cant even crack them even if they seize your computer they cant see what you were up to...We just need to stay one step ahead and keep the big mouths in the industry shut out...I know plenty of people asking me if i juice or if I can get it...Ive NEVER refered ANYONE to a board as the more idiots get there hands on shit the more it becomes a problem and gets more attention.Fk them anyway take away the mk677 wich i just fell in love with...guess itll just have to be GH now lol

I agree. Some info shouldn't be open to the main public.
We have invested some much for our sport.
Let the beachboys spend their money on crap stuff and
for us the good stuff :D
 
Yes it is happening but not sure if I would say soon. More than likely years away just like what happened with pros.
 
The info on the FDA site explains it. It's going to come down to the length of the amino acid chain of the peptide/protein.



UOTE=Queefer;2161135]Protein and peps I mean.[/QUOTE]
 
Time to stock up on healing peptides for my old ass! At least I know they're good for around 4 years in my freezer.
BPC157 has been a miracle peptide for my old body.
I put 250mcg in my elbow the other day after training arms and the next day it felt so much better that I actually trained arms again and was able to do skull crushers for the first time in years.
 
So this thing is right around the corner ? Feel like usually these things take a little time..?
 

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