Tb 500 or bpc 157 for tendinitis/jumpers knee

[juggy38]

Hey guys after 8 weeks of PL training my right knee is killing me. Which peptide would be best for tendonitis and jumpers knee? Also could they be run together? Also could y'all help me with dosing protocols?

 

[darkmonk]

Won't leave ya hanging

Hey I've been testing bpc157, tb500, and ipam/cjc over the past few months for a more severe injury (major tear of the biceps femoris), as well as a very limiting forearm tendonitis. What I can say in summary, is that tb500 definitely has a noticable systemic effect that brought a near 50% improvement improvement of range of motion to the damaged hamstring tendon and reduced pain by 70% I'd say - and the effects starting hitting pretty quick. Upon discontinuation, pain increased a little but range of motion was still vastly improved.

However, bpc157 has been stellar, but not until I started injecting directly over the tendon via an assistant. Before then doing just regular subq was beneficial as well, but just not to the same degree. I know its supposed to be systemic but I believe with all these compounds that the closer you can get to the injury site, the better your odds for delivery and saturation.

For tb500 you can do anywhere between 2mg to 6mg a week for a 6 week cycle. I did 6/4/4/4/2/2. Then in the future if you ever need some extra relief/healing, you can do a 2mg maintanance dose. Usually this is done 1x a month.

For bpc157 I do 100mcg currently, daily. I would do more if I could only do it systemically, maybe 250mcg or even 500mcg - but not for a long time.

They could be run together, but I think they are both effective enough at what they do that individually is quite enough. They do slightly different things, though. For tendonitis and inflammation tb500 is quite useful. If you have the cash, a PRP injection administered by a skilled ultrasound technician/doc would very good to throw in the mix. Peptides are a lot cheaper but you can only get so close to a tendon safely on your own.

Remember the real cure to tendonitis is a key combination of rest and proper strengthening exercises, which essentially means mixing it up for a while, listening to your body and this can very well mean not sticking to your most valued training routine for a time. It's worth it to get something annoying or limiting to go away, or to prevent more serious injury, and of course mandatory if you go to far as to tear a tendon. Peptides, if used correctly, are a real boon to healing though. And both of these peptides really reduce inflammation, but in a good way (not in a collagen damaging, blood platelet reducing way like NSAIDs).

Hope this helps.

 

[Diesel250]

I'm using both....500mcg of tb500 twice a week.
Bpc 250mcg 2x day

I recently tore my pec and I've had pain and inflammation..along with very limited range of motion...after one shot of tb500. I woke up with very little pain and about 25% more range of motion

 

[Google&Pubmed]

I used them for a while. For TB500 a vial a week for 6 weeks and then after the loading phase do 1 vial a month and you'll be good to go. All at once. I did them IM.

As far as BPC start at 100mcg and work your way up. 250mcg might be the sweet spot for you.

I would also take 3g of cissus and 4g of fish oil per day. They work wonders and are pretty cheap if you purchase them in bulk like from true protein. Shipping will be high from them though...$10-$12

 

[juggy38]

I used them for a while. For TB500 a vial a week for 6 weeks and then after the loading phase do 1 vial a month and you'll be good to go. All at once. I did them IM.

As far as BPC start at 100mcg and work your way up. 250mcg might be the sweet spot for you.

I would also take 3g of cissus and 4g of fish oil per day. They work wonders and are pretty cheap if you purchase them in bulk like from true protein. Shipping will be high from them though...$10-$12

Thanks bud. Taking cissus now. The analgesic properties are nice PWO. So for like BPc shooting in the fatty skin right above the tendon?

Damn tb500 at 6mg week is a chunk of change. I could possibly afford like a cycle of like 4mg/4/3/3/2/2/2

 

[bmf6]

I had nasty bicep tendonities and forearm splits (similar to shin splints but for the forearm) and took BPC and TB500 and it did absolutely nothing. Went to physical therapy for two weeks and it made a huge improvement. Still not 100% but noticeably better for the first time in over a year. Was also cheaper than how much TB500 and BPC I took.

 

[vegas83]

tendentious is the worst. Takes forever to heal and can't squat, wtf!! Has been GH, fish oil, cissus f0r me....still sore, ugh.

 

[javman]

Just asking but could TB500 be taken post workout along with super supplements to recoup faster?

 

[Rayrockwood]

All articular cartilage is avascular due to it being surrounded by the articular capsule which acts as a barrier between the blood and the synovium. There is a study showing bpc157 regrows cartilage in the knees of rats. But it must be injected intra-atricularly directly into the knee other wise the articular capsule restricts concentrations of the peptide to the extent that there is very little bpc actually getting to the chondrocytes and their progenitor cells which do the healing within capsule. . . . In rats.