been talking to a few others having very good results. Im most likely gonna give it a try. Ill let you guys know how results are
You know my feelings on it, I have seen several guys that do low dose cycling with test deca tren eq you name it, and make good gains with overall reduced side effects of IM injections.
SUBQ completely changes the way the hormone acts in the body vs IM, and people commenting on it that have not tried it have no idea what they are talking about, obviously.
When we talk about competing on subq or outright off season mass gaining - hell no.
But if you want to bridge between heavy cycles and stay leaner and maintain more mass, it works well. It also works well for those of us who are older been in the game banging IM's years upon years and tired of the constant IM deep injections and the constant rise and fall of the hormones that quickly tie up everything into one big side effect after a while.
Many people, not all, experience overall lower estrogen conversion and lowered hematocrit, and as mentioned there is a completely different feel to a subq dose than an IM one.
A couple of key points - don't inject more than .2ml, or you will get a lump and or some redness and or swelling, you don't want to dump a half ml under the skin even for a heavier guy with some fat on the abdomen.
So I'll use a competitor friend of mine as an example - he's older but still competes. He still does about 2 heavy cycles a year, average 2 grams total max of two anabolics and test. When he comes off he bridges with subq injections of test enanthate, tren acetate and eq. 60 -90 mg of test 60 mg of tren and 60 mg of eq a week and stays pretty large and lean once the water drops off.
I always laugh when I hear people comment on "low dosing" cycling that many people used in the 70's and 80's and some in the 90's, when test was 100 mg/ml, deca was 50-100 mg/ml tren acetate was 30 mg and 76 mg/ml, eq 50 mg/ml on and on I could go.
My first cycle in the early mid 90's was written by a well know AAU competitor at our gym who competed in the 70's and 80's and their IM cycles averaged 100 -200 mg test 100 -200 mg deca and 90 -152 mg of tren either finaject (30 mg/ml) or parabolan 76 mg/ml.
No these guys weren't 275 ripped monsters but they were well into the 220's, and looked pretty damn good back then off low dose.
Not every member on here is a "3 grams plus take as much GH as you can afford" mentality.
Even if you are you should come down sometime and bridge with a small cycle with lower dosed GH and slin to maintain gains in-between crashes.
I have never understood people criticizing things they don't either understand or that they have tried and can give feedback on.
Take what you will from every post on here is what I always try to do.
I want to thank emeric for his thread on this - it took me a long time to come around to 60 -90 mg of test subq would do anything for me - and it ended up being the best thing I have ever tried in the sport, even above the every third or fourth day GH administration I developed for myself over 10 years ago after reading Phil Hernon mentioning Big A's once a week GH dosing.
I could never tolerate more than 6 ius' GH a day and it was crippling me but 28 ius every 4th day was like magic without the sides.
Learn not to be a sheep or pied piper and carve your own way in this world cause nobody including me has the right answer to everything.
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