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Old 07-10-2008, 12:59 PM
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donating blood . . . does it reduce red blood cell count?

It is well established that any meaningful testosterone supplementation
stimulates erythropoiesis which in turn raises hematocrit and red blood
cell count (RBC).

My question is this: why does, or should, donating / giving blood lower your
hematocrit and RBC is all you are actually doing is lowering the total volume
of your blood in circulation, not actually removing or filtering out RBC's?

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but after donating blood you still have the same
concentration of hematocrit and RBC in your remaining blood, you just have less
total blood in circulation.

The reason I am asking is that in my case my hematocrit and RBC has risen
to the high end of normal, and sometimes over. I donate blood every season,
but recently it has risen even more, even with a reduced total testosterone
level.

I'm thinking that when the body starts making more blood, it does so with the
higher concentration of hematocrit and RBC (as a function of erythropoiesis),
adding to a already highly concentrated blood.

Would somebody with a bigger brain than mine please explain this to me . . .
why donating / giving blood lowers your hematocrit and RBC?
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My thoughts are this:

Your body starts out naturally (in most cases) producing x% of RBC and y% of WBC and hemocrit, basically a state of homeostasis. Then drugs or other outside factors (diet) are introduced which can rais any of these out of the ordinary. When you give blood then your body has to produce these WBC and RBC again and would do so at the appropriate amounts of each to reach homeostasis again, not produce a larger amount of RBC etc.

edit: when you add this newly produced blood (with lower RBC blood) that the body produced to fill that which was taken, and you add that to the % of higher RBC which is currently existing within the body, this would lower the overall % of RBC.

just my thoughts, im not a doctor ha

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Now I am no doctor, mad scientist maybe but it is the equivelent of taking something like OJ concentrate and adding water. It dillutes it. When we donate blood it does lower the volume of blood circulating temporarily. This lower volume still has the increased RBC count. In order to produce more blood to satisfy the drop in volume the body will then add water to the blood (since blood is made up of mostly water) to pump up the volume first. This addition of water dillutes the blood back down to a lower concentration of RBC's. Itr then takes time for our system to produce RBC's and other goodies that make up our blood. So over time the RBC count starts to climb again. But it is the dilluted blood that lowers the RBC count.
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Old 07-10-2008, 06:17 PM
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So while on cycle, how often does one donate blood. And does this effect blood pressure?
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Now I am no doctor, mad scientist maybe but it is the equivelent of taking something like OJ concentrate and adding water. It dillutes it. When we donate blood it does lower the volume of blood circulating temporarily. This lower volume still has the increased RBC count. In order to produce more blood to satisfy the drop in volume the body will then add water to the blood (since blood is made up of mostly water) to pump up the volume first. This addition of water dillutes the blood back down to a lower concentration of RBC's. Itr then takes time for our system to produce RBC's and other goodies that make up our blood. So over time the RBC count starts to climb again. But it is the dilluted blood that lowers the RBC count.
Exactly. When you donate you do lose RBCs in the blood you give away. Immediately afterwards your hematocrit would not have changed. After just 24 hours or so your body will have replaced that lost volume entirely with plasma. Plasma is mostly water, and has no RBCs. So after this has happened, your hematocrit will be down. It then takes about 1 month or more to replace those RBCs you lost.
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gentlemen

Thanks so much for all your responses.

It helps.
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