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Wow Buck ,you really recovered well without pct .you have a decent total test score for an older guy .i personally never really did pct in the past and always felt like shit for a couple of months .although your test levels are in range ,how are you feeling ?
I am Good but always have been even on very low T . Never I had a crashh at any test level.
I have done other cycles longer, 20 week plus and never felt I recovered. What I meen by that is Test levels never came into normal ranges before I started my next cycle That was 15 weeks off....
And Who Ya calling an Older Guy????
lol ,I'm 45 and rite behind you ! So what did you do different this time to recover so well compared to your past times being on ?
Is there a reason why? I'm thinking of what I know about the HPTA processes and I can't think of a mechanism where the two processes (GHRH for gh and LH and FSH for testosterone) are intermingled other than they both take place in the same gland. You probably have some suppression of endogenous production of GHRH, but if it does have an affect, it probably wouldn't have much.I am on HGH but thats the norm...
I am thinking If in fact I am recovered This may b a part of it....
wow Buck,it looks like you recovered just fine without pct. so now the question is pct overrated or are you just the exception ?
Is there a reason why? I'm thinking of what I know about the HPTA processes and I can't think of a mechanism where the two processes (GHRH for gh and LH and FSH for testosterone) are intermingled other than they both take place in the same gland. You probably have some suppression of endogenous production of GHRH, but if it does have an affect, it probably wouldn't have much.
I was always to understand that testosterone increases GH but not the other way around.
(high RDW with normal or low MCV is normally a B12 deficiency)*
Some light reading about that:
*All about RDW Blood Testing (Red Blood Cell Distribution Width)
Buck ,are you still taking the aromasin ? Maybe if you aren't that is why your test levels are lower .
Buck how is your sex drive with test at that #?
I think this group (TRT patients and especially PED junkies) makes a bigger deal of testosterone levels than necessary. Plus, you'll hear phrases like "keeping levels steady" almost every day on these boards. However, the truth is that our natural testosterone levels fluctuate wildly from day to day, week to week, young to old, etc. Especially during teen years and early 20's. Your natural testosterone levels are not steady at all. Ever. The normal levels are anywhere between 348 and 1197ng's/dL! How many other chemicals in the body are such that one man could have almost 4 times as much as another and both are considered perfectly normal? Things get even more odd when you consider that the guy at 400 can have higher cholesterol, BPH, gyno, and male pattern baldness and the guy at 1100 can have normal cholesterol, low sex drive, and a full head of hair. Is it safe to say that we don't have the first damn clue what our own optimal testosterone level is? If we can admit that, then most of this stuff goes right out the window.I would say not bad at all.. I must deal with it better than most as I have not had any ill effects from low T or any other sides or a crash of any sorts....
Peace