Ask Dr K your peptide questions

[johnjuanb1]

Dr. Dre is my peptide consultant.

 

[peptideknowledge]

You guys are ruthless

As you all know sponsors get two accounts here on PM. We could have added some "rep" to go push our products and make bogus comments to get the unexperienced to purchase items they don't need. Instead, we decided to add someone who will bring some science to our discussions.

Will everything he says be right? Fuck no!

Do many of the board members here have more experience with using peptides? Hell yes.

You will NEVER see Dr K tell someone to purchase Axis Peptide. He is here to give his opinion based on his understanding of the human body.

Bring some good questions to this thread and let's challenge him.

 

[G.I.Bro]

You guys are ruthless

As you all know sponsors get two accounts here on PM. We could have added some "rep" to go push our products and make bogus comments to get the unexperienced to purchase items they don't need. Instead, we decided to add someone who will bring some science to our discussions.

Will everything he says be right? Fuck no!

Do many of the board members here have more experience with using peptides? Hell yes.

You will NEVER see Dr K tell someone to purchase Axis Peptide. He is here to give his opinion based on his understanding of the human body.

Bring some good questions to this thread and let's challenge him.

Well fielded. I'm all for him showing what he has to offer. Just saying, it's a tough crowd.

 

[Sir Anabolic]

He must be vetted before entrance into the wolf pack. This is how it works. Baptism by fire. Respect is earned here, not given because you say you're an MD. We have another "Dr" who peddles generic red tops and says they're made by gensci (a lie). I know several MDs who are complete fucktards I wouldn't bother with unless I needed an antibiotic script, which I never do because I order my own. You place a doctor on a pedestal at your own folly. In my profession, we depose doctors for killing people with bone head mistakes often. They are just regular people, some not so bright, MCAT be damned. Most general practitioner / family doctors can't keep up with 85% of the higher level discussions had here on certain topics.

Doctor please address the questions in my post or fade back into the shadows...We're used to people peddling peps. But don't come here proclaiming you're a doctor to answer questions about peptides in a marketing stunt for a reseller and not expect some stronger members to challenge you.

Well put then.

 

[Big A]

Well fielded. I'm all for him showing what he has to offer. Just saying, it's a tough crowd.

Exactly, it is a tough crowd, but let's not jump to conclusions. One of my business partners in some of my ventures is a doctor that owns a whole chain of life extension/wellness clinics who is at the forefront of peptide research and production and uses them extensively on thousands of his patients. For me personally, he's the first person I'd turn to if I had a peptide question. This MD here on this thread could be the same.

 

[DrK]

DrK

hello doc, please provide some wise use protocol for IGF-1 LR3 and IGF Des, daily dosage, saturation points, use periods , repetitive use potentials and use over time issues

Hey there,

Great question. I will be honest, I do not know much on IGF-1 DES. But I will share what I know on IGF-1 LR3.
IGF-1 LR3 means Insulin like growth factor type 1 Long R3. There are 2 types of IGF, IGF-1 works better. The “long” means that it is synthetic chemically modified and had 13 AA added to the end terminal and they swapped out position 3 in the polypeptide chain for Arginine.
It is modified to increase the half-life from 10 min to 12 hours. Research indicates this modification in half-life increases the effectiveness by at least 2x.
At a resting state IGF has effects on the intestines (possible roid belly), spleen, Heart (cardiomegaly). But IGF expressed more receptors in damaged tissue. IE: Post workout muscles! There for immediately post workout is the anabolic window for IGF to bind to muscle.
IGF-1 Activated in cell causes:
-Increase in glucose uptake.
-Increases in m-RNA transcription from nucleus.
-Therefore an increase in protein synthesis.
-Decrease in body fat.
-Increase in GLUTE-4 expression (IGF-1 LR3 is anabolic but also has the actions of insulin and binds to GLUTE-4 receptor in fat and muscle. This causes amino acids (AA), carbs and creatine in the muscle. IGF-1 LR3 has really no need for insulin to accompany its use.)
All this “stuff” makes the muscles grow.

Some research indicates it may cause added hair growth, even on your head!

Protocol:
Sub Q injection: allows IGF to travel throughout whole body very quickly.
IM injection: This will also allow it to travel thru whole body but this way muscle gets first dibs on the IGF. Plus if it works best on damaged tissue then injecting in the damaged muscle post workout will express the most IGF-1 receptors and allow for the most effectiveness.
Dose:
10 mcg – 120 mcg/day
There are many opinions as to the dose due to the lack of human trails. But some say @ 50mcg there will be down regulation of IGF-1 receptors.

2 ways to boost Receptor Density:
1: Betaine 2: Trenbolone
Coaching: do less than 50 mcg per day IM in damaged post workout muscle.

This peptide is not very effective and is very complicated in its use. It must be chilled and injected immediately post workout. The side effects (like cardiomegaly, roid gut, and increased bone size like skull, hands etc, carpel tunnel like symptoms and the other same side effects of GH). For these reason and more it is should be reserved for the most experienced of lifters who have already plateaued using all other methods.

There are even clinical studies that indicate that if you do not have a GH or IGF-1 deficiency, the administration of exogenous IGF-1 would not cause any added muscle growth whatsoever. There are also studies point that it may cause cancer, but it is more likely that it just causes cancer to grow more rapidly as it causes all tissues to grow without discrimination. Keep in mind we all have cancer growing in us every day and our body’s immune system kills it. It is when something goes wrong that we actually get “Cancer”

On a side note to all the jokers in here. I have time to answer 1 question a day and if you keep filling the page with your negative rhetoric I will have trouble actually noticing the real questions. I understand that most of you feel like you are experts, especially bc we have access to the same information, as peptides have very few human trials. Any legitimate opinions and experiences are welcome and I look forward to discussing them.

 

[DrK]

You are a random person in a forum, selling stuff.

Instead of playing video games, I do this, but I would never pretend to be a practitioner on a web site.

And since this "peptide thing" is rather uncanny, in my experience, most people who talk about "science" do not have the sort of training in a the pure sciences or in the philosophy of science. Meaning, no real interpretive skills.

You just won yourself a round trip of I will never answer any question you ask. I wish you all the best in your video game career.

 

[DrK]

I appreciate all real questions and feedback. I welcome anyone's personal experiences.

 

[BigTex]

Exactly. These guys are using the doctor profession as a way to gain reputation and sell more peptides. That's cool with me but to state he knows more because he is a doctor is just plain stupid. Most doctor's don't have a clue about gh peptides. I bet most couldn't even name 1 peptide. We are not all mindless meatheads and many of us research subjects extensively. Now maybe this guy can add to things and teach us but he is definiately not off to a good start.

Exactly! He tone pretty much said that the rest of us haven't a clue. The doctor who did my knee is one of the best in the world. He deals pretty much with professional level athletes and knows all of them have access to some wonderful things to heal. Yet he would not discuss the use of peptides when I had knee surgery. It's just not ethical. I respect that. Nor would he come here and give advice when it is medically and professionally unethical.

You are one of the guys here with knowledge. You always give great advice and seem to have tried most everything. There are several others here that have plenty of good knowledge. Agreed, he got off to a bad start coming here and insulting our experience and knowledge.

 

[b_cornelius]

You just won yourself a round trip of I will never answer any question you ask. I wish you all the best in your video game career.

Well you didn't play it cool. The move to make there would have been to play it cool and make me look like an ass for my overzealousness. But instead you acted like a high school principal. I'm sure that you must be on an elementary school level of science. You definitely don't have the slick marketing angle, and you're probably not a top doctor.

We're your sense of inquiry? Oh I forgot you're a doctor, but once in a while we even have people come through this board that created peptides, did some of the original research/etc.

You have know idea about me or what I could do for you. Nor do I really know about you for what you could do for me. But you're not looking, and you don't care.

I don't wish necessarily wish you the best, and video games include supercomputers.

 

[b_cornelius]

I'm picking up what you're throwing down

My adaptations are to evolve in the now. Change is here too stay, tho something's never change.

Change is here to stay, while nothing changes about human reality. Patterns continue just as Machiavelli would claim.

There are various thresholds in which things topple. If the money's in this for doctors, then there should be money for politicians. We'll definitely have to form a peptide-lobbying group for this to continue.

Personally, I would like to continue so that we can eventually perform real research by scientists, not the sort of indications of M.D's. Medicals doctors tend to function as drug dealers for the government. M.D. is a different thing...let me get my beak wet.

I can only envision that if we can keep the government-mafia out of this, then we'd eventually evolve into a massive research apparatus, using these computers for something useful...

 

[b_cornelius]

Thanks Stewie.

Benjamin Franklin and the Citizen Scientist.

I've said my peace, and I'll probably just take a break from the whole thing.

 

[chainheart]

hell my endocrinologist never heard of sub q testosterone injections and couldn't understand why i would ask for an HCG script. i have two doctor friends they are specific in what they see daily and know much about that, but don't have a clue about metformin and it's expanding uses or even that it depletes C0Q10 and vitamin B12. and one will not write scripts for T because of the three year old lawyer ads alerting "Androgel, Testosterone Users May Be Able to File Lawsuits Over Heart Risk."

but i just want to tell Dr.K good luck, we're all counting on you.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHeP9Sve48"]I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you. - Airplane - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Elvia1023]

Tell me 10 peptide facts (about any of the various peptides used today) that you think most don't know about. It doesn't have to be 10 different peptides but just a few for certain ones. Just interesting info you feel the typical researcher may not know. Things like mega dosing for optimal muscle growth or combinations for improved sleep etc.

 

[Slr722]

Hey folks,

Thanks for taking the time to comment. Yes, I am an M.D. I run my own preventive care and rejuvenation medicine business. I have been researching information on peptides over the last few years and due to my understanding of science I am able to better understand and explain the information. I have had patients purchase many peptides in the past. As far as being a specialist on peptides, that does not exist as peptides are for research purposes only at this time. I would rather take advice about medication from a M.D. before i would from some random person in a forum, would you not agree? I am also not going to be here wasting my time defending myself or my credentials. I am here to answer questions and share knowledge and information. If you choose to heed and use that information, that is up to you. You may even disagree with what I say, that is fine too, I am not here to agree with you. The science is the science and that is where my opinions and knowledge are based.


I really look forward to helping others and answering the questions I can from the best of ability.

I know plenty of MDs and only 1 actually knows peptides in depth the others have no idea what I'm talking about of I ask about peptides. This doctor is also heavily involved in research as well as practicing.

You can drop your information about your rejuvenation medical business. If it's a legit business, you're an MD, it's not illegal. So far we only see your handle and know nothing about you. Only a fool would listen to a stranger when they know nothing about their qualifications. You saying you're an MD didn't count till proven. I can say I'm an MD as well...

On forums your reputation is what you have, unless you prove your rep off the board and tie it to real life, linking you to your handle.

Maybe you are and maybe you're not an MD no one knows. Just don't take offense when people question you.

 

[MisterB]

thank you Doc, this leads me to 2 follow up questions since i may have been wrong in my thoughts

if IGF1-Lr3 is active for say almost 30 hours it's still best to use after exercise so that its more rapidly bound to wanted targets. so does that lead me to think daily use is unnecessary and it should be saved for exercise days ?
and the standard use model of morning time shot IM is also necessary, that best use is Pre workout , and only bad side effects are gained on non workout days, or maybe more accurately a higher % of bad gut receptors gobble up the IGF on non workout days

thankyou so much for responding

 

[devenidas]

Well you didn't play it cool. The move to make there would have been to play it cool and make me look like an ass for my overzealousness. But instead you acted like a high school principal. I'm sure that you must be on an elementary school level of science. You definitely don't have the slick marketing angle, and you're probably not a top doctor.

We're your sense of inquiry? Oh I forgot you're a doctor, but once in a while we even have people come through this board that created peptides, did some of the original research/etc.

You have know idea about me or what I could do for you. Nor do I really know about you for what you could do for me. But you're not looking, and you don't care.

I don't wish necessarily wish you the best, and video games include supercomputers.

b_cornelius this Dr K is very smart!!! How could u miss it mate come on ? He was too quick to realise in the short span of time he has been here (atleast under this handle name) that you would be one of the medical minds here who would give him proper hard time and it would not be easy to get you in his groove. He probably checked your post history.

NEXT he is going to say ..

I am not answering any questions from Stewie
I am not answering any questions from GotGame


cos he will say you all just act as smart asses and are pimple face keyboard warriors who know nothing about peptides..

and thats it ....

There you go DrK if you are reading this I have made your life easy on pro muscle. Just refuse to answer any question from these gents and you will sail through here..

Or

You can take their questions & prove your worth by satisftying the medical panel of pro muscle.

I am sure DrK will discredit the rest of the brothers with REAL life extensive exp of using them like Elvia, RamboS here as bro-scientists peptide/steroids junkies who will pin anything and eveything in sight so there you have it.

Now its entirely upto you how you wish to proceed from here DrK. You can gain credibility from the community and achieve your goals whatever you are here for (Please do not tell me you are here for charity purposes taking time out from your multi million £££ making ventures) OR you will find yourself ignored carrying zero credibility and basically talking to youself !

Leave it to you. Have a nice day

 

[DrK]

Exactly! He tone pretty much said that the rest of us haven't a clue. The doctor who did my knee is one of the best in the world. He deals pretty much with professional level athletes and knows all of them have access to some wonderful things to heal. Yet he would not discuss the use of peptides when I had knee surgery. It's just not ethical. I respect that. Nor would he come here and give advice when it is medically and professionally unethical.

You are one of the guys here with knowledge. You always give great advice and seem to have tried most everything. There are several others here that have plenty of good knowledge. Agreed, he got off to a bad start coming here and insulting our experience and knowledge.

I totally agree with you all about most M.D.'s. They do not want to learn anything outside of standard treatments. Even most doctors who offer TRT don't even know what clomid is or how to follow proper injection schedules to avoid hormonal roller coasters. I am only coming on here to help share what I know. I do not think I know everything or even close. I am here to learn too, from you all, but I thought I could share what I have learned, studied and experienced with various clients and patients. I am really only here to try to help, so when I offer that and get attached personally, I will not tolerate that. I in no way shape or form meant to insinuate that I know more then everyone or anyone and I am sorry if it came off that way to you.

 

[DrK]

thank you Doc, this leads me to 2 follow up questions since i may have been wrong in my thoughts

if IGF1-Lr3 is active for say almost 30 hours it's still best to use after exercise so that its more rapidly bound to wanted targets. so does that lead me to think daily use is unnecessary and it should be saved for exercise days ?
and the standard use model of morning time shot IM is also necessary, that best use is Pre workout , and only bad side effects are gained on non workout days, or maybe more accurately a higher % of bad gut receptors gobble up the IGF on non workout days

thankyou so much for responding

Yes, from my understanding, especially with the risk of side effects, I believe it would be best to do only on workout days and only in the worked muscle. Doing it as a preworkout would be good, but from my understanding, immediately post workout would be better. Because we are injecting and giving first opportunity of the drug to that damaged tissue which is expressing more IGF-1 receptor sites.


I hope this helps.

 

[peptideknowledge]

Yes, from my understanding, especially with the risk of side effects, I believe it would be best to do only on workout days and only in the worked muscle. Doing it as a preworkout would be good, but from my understanding, immediately post workout would be better. Because we are injecting and giving first opportunity of the drug to that damaged tissue which is expressing more IGF-1 receptor sites.


I hope this helps.

Dr K what are you talking about? Only on workout days? Aren't you supposed to take it every day, twice a day?

Thanks for the honest answer - guys we aren't here to just push product!