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Bodybuilding hacks for the wealthy

For me it's as much about how I view myself as how others view me. For example, I know my wife finds me sexy, but if I don't feel sexy, my ability to enjoy sex is greatly reduced.

What you said about finding all the imperfections and not being satisfied no matter how much you improve.. this is true. In fact it seems like people who never try to improve their appearance (besides things like clothing), are way more confident and satisfied with their appearance than when they start trying to fix things.
Over the last few decades i have talked to many people about self image. and the thread that i seem to find is that the image people develop of themselves in their early to mid teens seems to stay with them for the rest of their life for the most part no matter how well or badly they do later in life. Not scientific just my observation.
 
I have heard from so many that say that got nothing from it, i have to wonder how much is placebo effect along with how much in kick backs some get from referrals or they just don't want to talk bad as they got cut rate deals etc. From the studies i saw in the past the rate of success is not real high. I can afford it and toy with the idea but there is still little known about long term effects good or bad.
Agreed. I can afford it as well, but have seen it be hit or miss for people. I mentioned Flex Lewis- he never came back to compete after getting them. I know there were many other factors besides injuries. Believe Ramey has gotten them as well. For $20k a treatment I’d want a little more.
 
Agreed. I can afford it as well, but have seen it be hit or miss for people. I mentioned Flex Lewis- he never came back to compete after getting them. I know there were many other factors besides injuries. Believe Ramey has gotten them as well. For $20k a treatment I’d want a little more.
Fouad says his kidney values are a little better 15 points i think, but that is not a huge thing to me. mine went up that much after i quit eating 6 meals a day and training the way i did for decades But the rest didn't seem to pan out well.
 
Agreed. I can afford it as well, but have seen it be hit or miss for people. I mentioned Flex Lewis- he never came back to compete after getting them. I know there were many other factors besides injuries. Believe Ramey has gotten them as well. For $20k a treatment I’d want a little more.
You can make your own easy enough. It's not difficult and the equipment (centrifuge and a few medical supplies) is cheap. No need to travel and spend a lot of money
 
You can make your own easy enough. It's not difficult and the equipment (centrifuge and a few medical supplies) is cheap. No need to travel and spend a lot of money
I think you may be referring to platelet infused plasma which is what most do here in the US. I am referring to what Tony Robbins has done and going to the Stem Cell Institute. There’s a lot more that can be done outside the US with real human stem cell treatment.

But it’s not a magic bullet or cure all. I know a local hall of fame WWE wrestler who swears by it, but I know others who have not gotten much from it. I think age and lifestyle play a huge role.

Going off the topic of the thread- It’s one of those things if I’m ever in Panama and have $20k to spend… why the hell not. Lol
 
I think you may be referring to platelet infused plasma which is what most do here in the US. I am referring to what Tony Robbins has done and going to the Stem Cell Institute. There’s a lot more that can be done outside the US with real human stem cell treatment.

But it’s not a magic bullet or cure all. I know a local hall of fame WWE wrestler who swears by it, but I know others who have not gotten much from it. I think age and lifestyle play a huge role.

Going off the topic of the thread- It’s one of those things if I’m ever in Panama and have $20k to spend… why the hell not. Lol
Yes, I was referring to PRP. 20k,,,hmm, not so sure I would but good thread to discuss all remedies for sure.
At 52, my knee and shoulder are always creating issues and I'm sure many older lifters here have nagging injuries and its frustrating working around them in the gym.
 
You are wrong - whatever we do in life we do to get laid- extend our own kind. All pursuit for more cash more power more knowledge is to make a better version ourselfes and this will create better chances to attract the best possible female. We - men like to get better in whatever we do and getting laid is not our primary focus but rather byproduct of our efforts.

Very true in many ways but OTT was correct. Of course attaining a great physique is going to attract lot's of women. Plus everyone has different tastes and some women do love huge and ripped guys. However when growing (even if very lean) once you get to a certain point as you get bigger the amount of women who like that lowers significantly. Of couse this is just in a general sense but 100% the bigger I got the less I attracted women especially the type of women I wanted to attract.

As someone else posted you do it for the love of bodybuilding and changing yourself but if women were a main goal I never would have ever went above 230. If someone is 210 pounds and very lean they simply won't understand this because it's literally night and day. I am tall and even I noticed the difference nevermind being 5ft 5 and weighing over 250. Most of the women I meet are intimidated by the way I look especially younger women. A lot of younger women (even in their 30's) are very attracted to feminine men. Even my mates tell me I intimidate men and I am very polite and never aggressive. Gay men that's a different story and I would say a high % are very attracted to bigger muscular men.

The chances of me attracting the best possible female as you wrote massively declined the bigger I got. Obviously I just attract them in others ways (being funny, nice, polite etc) but most of the women that are really attracted to me definitely aren't good for me (strippers, very high body count, regular alcohol and drugs, mental issues etc).
 
The point is to have healthy food that won't make you fat. Choose whatever you want.

As far as not working hard, no one said anything about not working hard. And for a lot of us guys, working hard and having a decent diet isn't enough to be lean and have abs. You probably don't understand that and you probably think anyone without abs is just a lazy fuck who eats like shit and binges all the time. Far from the case. Guys like me have dieted good and worked hard for decades but we are never lean with abs unless we are *extremely strict* on our diet for months on end.

I don't really consider that a hack for the rich because even people who aren't rich can eat exactly like that. That's why vegetables and certain berries are so good if someone needs to fill up their diets with nutrients but low calorie foods. I didn't say you didn't write about working hard but most of your suggestions are not needed by anyone who works hard. I am fully aware of the differences in genetics from person to person but again if guys struggle more to get lean then they have to put extra work in when cutting down. Just like me I am naturally a tall and skinny person with a fast metabolism so I have to eat a lot to grow and have to work harder that way then many others. I may find it easier to cut than some but it's definitely the opposite when trying to grow.

No I don't think anyone without abs is just a lazy fuck at all but most people who don't have abs are definitely not eating as good as they could be. The last part could be true for most people. Most people have to diet hard for months/weeks to have abs and that's just part of the process. Obviously if something makes it easier for you to get the results you want then great so I am not stating it's wrong for you to do. When I think of things I would do if very rich they are just much different and that doesn't make them any more right or wrong than your suggestions.

You wrote have loads of protein powders etc. I would have a personal chef like others have stated if I were rich. That would make bodybuilding so much easier for me. Some guys don't mind food prep and it's part of the process for them but for me a personal chef would be great. The most important and primary change I would have is constant massage work and that would transform my life. That's something only people with decent money can do. Someone could be lucky and marry a massage specialist but most people getting regular massage work are paying a lot for it (Jay Cutler comes to mind).

Then comes my own gym with all my favourite equipment and maybe even a gym DJ playing great music. Obviously none of this is needed but if we are just talking about being rich then why not. Another are stem cells and basically any treatments that would help my injuries and general health. They obviously require lot's of money ($20k per treatment) unless you're very famous and the clinic gives you free treatments for promotional purposes.
 
In all seriousness the skin tightening thing you mentioned intrigues me. I don’t have mega loose skin like some former heavies - but I do have some shit around my belly button area I would like to “shrink” if possible…

PS - lol kinda chunky right now from this growing phase - but worth it!
I also want to know wtf he was talking about. Doesn't look like anyone asked about it.
 
I also want to know wtf he was talking about. Doesn't look like anyone asked about it.
I replied to his comment with a link to where he could find a provider. You can read about the device and the method on that webpage I linked to. Or here, a couple videos on it:



 
Lifting weights and training to get women? Wut?

What woman that’s hot as fuck wants a guy that weighs food and goes to the gym everyday? Not many.

Also, at 5-10 245lbs, women weren’t flocking over me. Other dudes thought I was impressive and

You want to get women? Be intelligent, confident/funny , and have money.
 
Lifting weights and training to get women? Wut?

What woman that’s hot as fuck wants a guy that weighs food and goes to the gym everyday? Not many.

Also, at 5-10 245lbs, women weren’t flocking over me. Other dudes thought I was impressive and

You want to get women? Be intelligent, confident/funny , and have money.
This lol. If I got $$ to blow and want women I'm going to invest in tattoos, fast cars, things that make more $, maybe buy a strip club, and just pay them. Not fake teeth, fake hair, lipo, and things to make my muscles big.
 
Was talking to a buddy about how the only people who like big arms/muscles are other dudes and how I was recently in a line and got felt up or questioned on them by no less than 4 guys (Miami club). Anyway, we are at a spot further north and have a table (3 guys and 5 girls, all business friends and we are almost all married), all of a sudden I feel hands on my arm and then on another. I know it's this dude fucking with me so I turn and he's laughing his ass off 10' away because he sees my look and knows I think he's screwing with me. Was the bottle girl and one of her friends. Kind of funny - I'll gladly take the compliment.
 
Lifting weights and training to get women? Wut?

What woman that’s hot as fuck wants a guy that weighs food and goes to the gym everyday? Not many.

Also, at 5-10 245lbs, women weren’t flocking over me. Other dudes thought I was impressive and

You want to get women? Be intelligent, confident/funny , and have money.
If you want to discuss what women find attractive make another thread
 
This lol. If I got $$ to blow and want women I'm going to invest in tattoos, fast cars, things that make more $, maybe buy a strip club, and just pay them. Not fake teeth, fake hair, lipo, and things to make my muscles big.
If that's your approach then screw the cars and tattoos, just pay for high end hookers. Or, put another way, just date women who like men with money. It's the same thing as prostitution.
 
Was talking to a buddy about how the only people who like big arms/muscles are other dudes and how I was recently in a line and got felt up or questioned on them by no less than 4 guys (Miami club). Anyway, we are at a spot further north and have a table (3 guys and 5 girls, all business friends and we are almost all married), all of a sudden I feel hands on my arm and then on another. I know it's this dude fucking with me so I turn and he's laughing his ass off 10' away because he sees my look and knows I think he's screwing with me. Was the bottle girl and one of her friends. Kind of funny - I'll gladly take the compliment.
I don't want this thread to devolve into this subject. Yes, big muscles garner a lot more explicit positive attention from other men than they do women. That doesn't mean women, even women who say they don't like big muscles, don't actually like them. But let's leave this nonsense about "what women like" for another thread. It's all really common sense basic shit anyways. Not really interesting unless your a teenager or some other form of inexperienced.
 
Lifting weights and training to get women? Wut?

What woman that’s hot as fuck wants a guy that weighs food and goes to the gym everyday? Not many.

Also, at 5-10 245lbs, women weren’t flocking over me. Other dudes thought I was impressive and

You want to get women? Be intelligent, confident/funny , and have money.
Agree that women seem to want humor, emotional intelligence and semi good looking is fine. I drive an expensive sports car, have a nice house etc and it hasn't really helped. True that attracting women with muscles helps but they don't care that much. Wish someone told me that years ago, lol. They love stable, funny. I get told that muscular guys are "man-whores" and that's the perception from really great women. They always tell me that I must have slept with tons of women and it turns them off. Stereotype and I'm sure many of you have been told the same. It is what it is. We do this bc we love it, and if my girl enjoys it, great for her.
 
1) personal chef, one that collaborates with my nutrition coach, in order to provide me with tasty, nutritious meals tailor-made to meet my goals. No food shopping, no cooking, no cleaning

2) pharm grade everything. If I wanted stuff that couldn’t be obtained via pharmaceutical company, commission a factory in china to manufacture pharm grade Raws. Money is no object right?

3) concierge physician that knows what I’m doing and taking, and monitors my health accordingly
 

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