Equipoise and Anxiety and Nervousness

[desibaba]

I had been on a gram of deca a week along with around 2 grams of Test for many months and recently swithed to EQ at about the same amount. I have run EQ many times in the past but I definitely feel a lot more anxiety, nervousness and even sweating. Anyone else feel that from EQ but not from Deca. On the other hand I look a lot more vascular than I was on the deca.

 

[Pumped1]

3 grams a week ! i have anxiety just thinking about it

 

[Medic08]

Sounds like you've got some good EQ bc that is the number one side effect from EQ. I think being on 3 plus grams of anything would cause anxiety, but the reason EQ causes anxiety bc it significantly increases the bodies red blood cell count. If you want the side effects to go away then I would drop the dose or drop the EQ all together, but I think your problem is the fact that you're running such high doses. 2G's of test alone would cause anxiety and/or an increase in aggression. Add a gram of Deca along with that and you've got some pretty significant aggression and mood changes.

By the way, I'm not judging or ripping on you for running high doses. I'm just pointing out the obvious and trying to give you sound advice. Drop your doses or drop a compound and I think your anxiety will get better.

Are you dieting or has your personal life become more stressful lately? These factors would also increase the symptoms that you're having.

 

[mike036]

Even high doses of test are known to cause anxiety but to answer your question I get more anxious when going over 600 mg of EQ

 

[Elvia1023]

Eq effects gabaergic transmission and that is the main factor in it contributing to anxiety/nervousness. If it becomes a major issue I would either stop or lower your dose. ED dosing would also minimize it's negative effects.

 

[Jizzmo]

EQ is the only compound that gives me anxiety.

ive ran test, tren, npp, anadrol, whatever in the 1g range (not all together)
and never had any anxiety. not on 2.5g combined, never.

when i ran EQ at just 500mg a week with some test and mast (i think 500mg of each) i was anxious as HELL, had a headache whenever i layed down or got up and had a raging appetite (not good because i like to eat anyway). bad stuff if you ask me. made me look really full and good but will never run it again.

 

[Elvia1023]

Sounds like you've got some good EQ bc that is the number one side effect from EQ. I think being on 3 plus grams of anything would cause anxiety, but the reason EQ causes anxiety bc it significantly increases the bodies red blood cell count. If you want the side effects to go away then I would drop the dose or drop the EQ all together, but I think your problem is the fact that you're running such high doses. 2G's of test alone would cause anxiety and/or an increase in aggression. Add a gram of Deca along with that and you've got some pretty significant aggression and mood changes.

By the way, I'm not judging or ripping on you for running high doses. I'm just pointing out the obvious and trying to give you sound advice. Drop your doses or drop a compound and I think your anxiety will get better.

Are you dieting or has your personal life become more stressful lately? These factors would also increase the symptoms that you're having.

As Jizzmo stated Eq is different. High doses could cause anyone anxiety... whether it being test, deca etc. But Eq should be treated differently. Anyone who suffers from anxiety should leave Eq alone. Tren can be bad too but I can control that easily. Even 1 shot of 300mg eq will give me anxiety.

 

[Cerberus777]

I used to run a lot of EQ when I was younger, now I can barley tolerate it.

All gear can cause anxiety, but most of the time if you know what is going on. And stay busy you're fine....EQ is different, like Elvia said it mess with your GABA.

 

[CHAPS]

These guys already beat me to it, but yes it will effect gaba so the lovely calming effects of that neurotransmitter go right out the window. Even 200mg made me a complete mess.

 

[Medic08]

As Jizzmo stated Eq is different. High doses could cause anyone anxiety... whether it being test, deca etc. But Eq should be treated differently. Anyone who suffers from anxiety should leave Eq alone. Tren can be bad too but I can control that easily. Even 1 shot of 300mg eq will give me anxiety.

Yeah, I understand that EQ is different, but anytime you greatly increase RBC's you can expect anxiety most likely due to an increase in blood pressure and heart rate. I'm sure that altering GABA plays a big part in mood changes, but hypertension will also cause anxiety.

I've never ran EQ personally, but bc I have anxiety I most likely will not use it. The same goes for Drol. It's also a steroid that increases RBC'S and was used to treat patients with anemia.

As you know Tren is in a class all by itself and I agree that if you have any type of physchological issues then stay as far away from Tren as you can.

 

[Cerberus777]

Yeah, I understand that EQ is different, but anytime you greatly increase RBC's you can expect anxiety most likely due to an increase in blood pressure and heart rate. I'm sure that altering GABA plays a big part in mood changes, but hypertension will also cause anxiety.

I've never ran EQ personally, but bc I have anxiety I most likely will not use it. The same goes for Drol. It's also a steroid that increases RBC'S and was used to treat patients with anemia.

As you know Tren is in a class all by itself and I agree that if you have any type of physchological issues then stay as far away from Tren as you can.

Yeah, you can get anxiety if BP goes up, and it becomes cyclical. If you go do something you like, its tends to go away, and BP goes down. My BP is sensitive. But EQ is something different, you're smart to stay away.

Typically if anxiety raises I can take a few deep breaths and be ok, the last time I ran EQ(first time this behavior showed up) I would make every excuse not to leave the house, I wouldn't drive if it was raining....So I figured no more EQ for me.

 

[desibaba]

I work in sales and looking nervous and anxious wont help me sell cars. As much as I love Bodybuilding and Bodybuilding Drugs I do need to make a living too. Im also feeling headaches a lot. I wonder if its increasing my blood pressure drastically. Anything I can take OTC to feel better?

 

[Medic08]

I work in sales and looking nervous and anxious wont help me sell cars. As much as I love Bodybuilding and Bodybuilding Drugs I do need to make a living too. Im also feeling headaches a lot. I wonder if its increasing my blood pressure drastically. Anything I can take OTC to feel better?

I would for sure check your blood pressure bc it definitely sounds elevated based off of the level of anxiety that you're having. Not to mention the headaches that you're having. Headaches are also a symptom of hypertension. If I were you I wouldn't look for a fix, but rather drop your dose or just drop the drug all together. Does hypertension run in your family or do you have a history of it? There are OTC supps that can help to some extent, but they're not nearly as strong as prescription strength hypertension meds (obviously).

 

[Bleed]

Eq is incredible. One of the best IMO.

The trade off, as has been said ad nauseum, is that all its bad sides effects are synergistic in a bad-der way.

If you are going to take it watch your BP, CRIT, RBC, etc It may be one of those things you can use with support supps and be good or be like the guy who takes 200mg and regrets it.

But if you can tolerate it's phenomenal. Really just incredible.

 

[Millineum Man]

WOW! I had NO idea that EQ effected this many people with anxiety. I thought they were isolated incidents. Most guys say that it's a mild compound and need to be ran higher and longer(600-900mgs for 16-20+ weeks).

 

[Jizzmo]

Yeah, I understand that EQ is different, but anytime you greatly increase RBC's you can expect anxiety most likely due to an increase in blood pressure and heart rate. I'm sure that altering GABA plays a big part in mood changes, but hypertension will also cause anxiety.

I've never ran EQ personally, but bc I have anxiety I most likely will not use it. The same goes for Drol. It's also a steroid that increases RBC'S and was used to treat patients with anemia.

As you know Tren is in a class all by itself and I agree that if you have any type of physchological issues then stay as far away from Tren as you can.

ive ran drol up to a gram a week and never felt anxiety at all... maybe you should try a low dose, you might be missing out on not using drol if you ask me. it also didnt give me headaches or whatever. but drol gives me insomnia. way worse than tren. i usually come off after 3-4 weeks because of the shitty sleep (on tren i wake up like every 2 hours (which i can tolerate for quite a while), on drol every 60-90mins which sucks).

 

[Cerberus777]

I would for sure check your blood pressure bc it definitely sounds elevated based off of the level of anxiety that you're having. Not to mention the headaches that you're having. Headaches are also a symptom of hypertension. If I were you I wouldn't look for a fix, but rather drop your dose or just drop the drug all together. Does hypertension run in your family or do you have a history of it? There are OTC supps that can help to some extent, but they're not nearly as strong as prescription strength hypertension meds (obviously).

OTC,ubiqunol 400-600mg a day with 10mg cialas. Will give you a 10-20 point drop in blood pressure.

 

[Medic08]

OTC,ubiqunol 400-600mg a day with 10mg cialas. Will give you a 10-20 point drop in blood pressure.

Yeah, I knew Cialis was good for hypertension, but he said OTC so that's the only reason I said what I said. I would still want to know what my BP was before just taking supps bc if its 190/130 then a 10-20 point drop isn't going to matter.

 

[Cerberus777]

Yeah, I knew Cialis was good for hypertension, but he said OTC so that's the only reason I said what I said. I would still want to know what my BP was before just taking supps bc if its 190/130 then a 10-20 point drop isn't going to matter.

True, once you have reached a certain point, best to lower or discontinue dosage and talk to a doctor...Not something to take lightly.

 

[Medic08]

True, once you have reached a certain point, best to lower or discontinue dosage and talk to a doctor...Not something to take lightly.

They don't call it the silent killer for no reason

It sounds like his is pretty high if he's getting headaches so that's why I suggested lowering or dropping instead of supplementing.