little slice
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damnit lewy..
Yeah, it's that simple...he was just selfish. No other layers to it than that... What a small minded comment.
When it comes down to it - yes it really is that simple.
Be a man and deal with your problems.
If you have 6 children and kill yourself you are a pathetic coward. You have put yourself above all of those who you created and who are dependant on you.
When it comes down to it - yes it really is that simple.
Be a man and deal with your problems.
If you have 6 children and kill yourself you are a pathetic coward. You have put yourself above all of those who you created and who are dependant on you.
you don't have a fucking clue what yo are talking about.
i like how he's the coward when you'e the one speaking ill of the dead
Do you know what coward even means? Coward: a person who is contemptibly lacking in the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things.
How can he not be held in contempt for deserting his 6 children?
i have alot of experience of suicide and addiction. It irks me when some stupid little kid like yourself starts saying things like "you don't know what you are talking about" when you know literally nothing about me.
I get that it is sad someone has died.
But the facts are still the same this man had 6 children who depended on him and rather than deal with his problems, he took the selfish escape route of suicide. He has ruined his children's lives and he should have put that above his own depression and been a man.
Do you know what coward even means? Coward: a person who is contemptibly lacking in the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things.
How can he not be held in contempt for deserting his 6 children?
i have alot of experience of suicide and addiction. It irks me when some stupid little kid like yourself starts saying things like "you don't know what you are talking about" when you know literally nothing about me.
I get that it is sad someone has died.
But the facts are still the same this man had 6 children who depended on him and rather than deal with his problems, he took the selfish escape route of suicide. He has ruined his children's lives and he should have put that above his own depression and been a man.
ok well here's an anecdote for you.. just so i can get an idea of where you're coming from.
a buddy of mine had a wife and kids.. house with a white picket fence.. etc.
everything was great. he and his wife got along wonderfully.
then she divorced him. she probably got the tingles for someone else or whatever.
she documented his steroid usage, and used that in court to paint him as an abusive, roid-raging maniac who was a danger to his children.
she got a restraining order, full custody, and the house.. he wasn't allowed near his children, since they were with their mother who had a restraining order and full custody.
so in one fell swoop, he went from on top of the world, to barely being able to afford a can of beans to eat, in a shit apartment with bars in the window.
between alimony, child support, and the mortgage on the house that he wasn't allowed in... that his ex-wife was moving some other man into...he had nothing.
wasn't long before he took his own life.
was he a coward?
yes I do think you should of told him that. you know how many guys go thru that shit everyday? a lot and they don't kill themselves.
do you think i should have told him to "man up and deal with it"?
That's obviously bullshit! If you truly had experience dealing with people that were struggling with depression and/or mental illness, you wouldn't make such short sighted and small minded comments. You make it sound like it was just a nonchalant decision to take his life and leave his children as well as other family and friends behind. To say it's based on pure selfishness and not an emotional/mental health issue shows how ignorant you truly are!
Go find another thread to enlighten people.
ok well here's an anecdote for you.. just so i can get an idea of where you're coming from.
a buddy of mine had a wife and kids.. house with a white picket fence.. etc.
everything was great. he and his wife got along wonderfully.
then she divorced him. she probably got the tingles for someone else or whatever.
she documented his steroid usage, and used that in court to paint him as an abusive, roid-raging maniac who was a danger to his children.
she got a restraining order, full custody, and the house.. he wasn't allowed near his children, since they were with their mother who had a restraining order and full custody.
so in one fell swoop, he went from on top of the world, to barely being able to afford a can of beans to eat, in a shit apartment with bars in the window.
between alimony, child support, and the mortgage on the house that he wasn't allowed in... that his ex-wife was moving some other man into...he had nothing.
wasn't long before he took his own life.
was he a coward?
do you think i should have told him to "man up and deal with it"?
Of course you should have told him to deal with it. Many millions of people have gone through equally bad situations or worse.
You are suggesting I am being flippant about all this with your use of "man up"
I'm not. My opinion is pretty straightforward to follow: if you have children/dependents then under no circumstances is it ever acceptable to end your own life.
Of course you should have told him to deal with it. Many millions of people have gone through equally bad situations or worse.
You are suggesting I am being flippant about all this with your use of "man up"
I'm not. My opinion is pretty straightforward to follow: if you have children/dependents then under no circumstances is it ever acceptable to end your own life.
im not saying what he did was right. im saying that it's not right to talk shit about these people.
i suppose we will just have to agree to disagree... but i will say this
i hope you guys never fall from your ivory towers
Listen to you, wow! So if we do fall from our "ivory towers" will we tie a rope around our necks? I dont think so. I guess people handle things different but suicide should never be a option, especially with kids. I get that these people are mentally sick but there is always help, if you want it. Most of us have been thru shit that can cause suicidal thoughts, i know i have. Now you have a big heart LS?
i suppose we will just have to agree to disagree... but i will say this
i hope you guys never fall from your ivory towers
there is always help, if you want it.
^
This.
You guys saying he behaved like a "coward" for he left 6 kids and a wife behind him imply he acted as if he didn't give a fuck about them... what a stupid thing to say... don't you realize the state of profound despair he must have been in to STILL decide to take the plunge knowing so many counted on him? There's only so much time one can hang in... I bet the guy fighted for months/years to NOT kill himself PRECISELY to spare his family... until living became so unbearable that he found no other choice to relieve his pain.
If you've never experienced yourself what true mental suffering/depression is, you really shouldn't allow yourself to comment on someone else's misery. Sorrow, I mean intense sorrow, is a horrible thing... when this existence loses the slighest interest in your eyes, believe me, kid or not, it's incredibly tough to not commit the irreparable.
Don't judge people when you've not gone through the same path.