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Insulin without hgh? - Professional Muscle (Chinese)
insulin without hgh - Professional Muscle (Chinese)
any point in taking insulin without hgh? - Professional Muscle (Chinese)
10 million dollar insulin question - Professional Muscle (Chinese)
gear + slin no hgh bulking - Professional Muscle (Chinese)
talk about stealing all my joy....
guess this could be a dud. just thought with the recent phil and mike Arnold posts it could be relevant...
-F2S
When you use it with GH, how much of each do you use.I have used slin with and without gh. mostly without it. I don't see how it couldn't benefit someone... I saw in a post the other day Phil Hernon said "never" use it without gh, that was really the motivator for this thread. I believe it BEST with gh and/or peps but I think it can still be beneficial without.
-F2S
When you use it with GH, how much of each do you use.
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Of course you can use it without GH. Saying otherwise is like telling someone they can't use test with tren, or some ridiculous shit like that. Regardless of whether we use GH or not, insulin will still provide its benefits.
Doesn't the body already produce insulin every day, regardless of whether we exo GH or not? Yes--because it can and will continue benefiting from it. GH doesn't change this. Insulin is not dependent on GH in order to elicit its effects.
Certainly, using both will produce better muscle gains and make it easier to remain lean, but so will adding GH to testosterone.
Can you explain a bit more of this method? There is a very good coach in the northeast area who uses this method and it has always intrigued me.Used and timed properly, slin can even tremendously help you lose bf... remember what it does: lower your blood glucose level... and when it's low enough, your body has no choice but release fat from your adipocytes.
Sure you'll flirt with hypoglycemia, so you better know what you're doing and have your share of experience with it already, but saying blatantly "slin will make you fat" is just false... slin with low/no carbs WON'T fatten you, GH or not... quite the opposite actually.
But then again, you must know exactly how to manipulate your diet, and be particularly cautious.
Can you explain a bit more of this method? There is a very good coach in the northeast area who uses this method and it has always intrigued me.
Well, there's no particular "method", but in short, if your body needs xxx grams of carbs and you dose your slin according to that amount (what you should always do btw, never the opposite - ie dose carbs based on slin which is the fastest way to fatten up), upping just a few IU's should decrease your BGL enough to not only prevent fat gain but also lose some if you're already on a low carb diet. Hence why we use humalog or humulin R to speed up ketosis.
Don't take it as some advice as it can be dangerous if not done cautiously, but the time in my life I lost the more bf was when I was doing cardio on an empty stomach in the morning while using a low dose (3-4 IU's) fast acting slin beforehand... not for everyone though, and certainly not for beginners or newbies with slin.