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Just things I find imperiative for health
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Take your blood pressure for a week straight upon arising..... get a baseline going.....if its high do something about it!!!
If its seriously high get carditone right away
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next day mail service and get on one tab morn and one tab nite. I just put another guy on it who was 170/110 and it got him down to 135/80-85 by the end of a week. Then figure out what is giving you high blood pressure (compounds, diet, obesity, lack of cardio etc etc etc) and fix it! Fix it so you can come down to 1/2 tab carditone morn and nite and then off of carditone. Fix it so if you are on a BP pres diuretic, you can go over to dandelion root morn and nite.
Everybody used to worry bout liver and kidneys in bodybuilding. Lets be honest for a second. Look at this board over the last 10 years....how many liver problems have you seen? Not many. How many kidney problems have you seen? Quite a few and its a problem. How many heart attack and cardiomyopathy problems have you seen? Alot and its a problem. How much cancer threads have you seen? Seems to be many more cancer threads happening over the last few years havent there? There is a problem. (i have my ideas on what is raising those incidences but it goes directly against some of the sponsors of this board so im going to keep my mouth shut on that one).....this is more about preventative maintenance.
So the big problems in my mind as to people "on the sauce" and longevity is the following
1) I cannot stand the phrase "your only as big as your dosage", in fact i think its utter bullshit. I dwarf people in my gym who are on 1300mg a week of test, along with tren and dball (<---they tell me what they are on) yet im over here doing 200-250mg TRT....so yea i think most people dont have a fu*&ing clue in the world on how to eat, train, and supplement to gain muscle mass and in my case maintain muscle mass. Im off subject like usual...my point was change the phrase "your only as big as your dosage" to "whatever my bloodwork deems is safe is what I can use"....thats what the saying should be..... if you are out of range, then you need to figure it out.
(addendum: unless you are welcoming cardiopathy by using sauce and GH chronically)
2) last 4 weeks before a show, take everything i am saying in this post and throw it in the waste basket. Obviously you are going for the win...and the win doesnt involve superb bloodwork. It is what it is.
3) Never use orals offseason if you can. 4-8 weeks preshow only. I can see maybe using an oral one day a week in offseason on a weak bodypart day or the recovery day for that weak bodypart....but lets get down to brass tacks....orals drive your HDL into the ground, are always an adenoma risk (see this board do a search for adenoma...look at what they used every time!) and are just a toxic risk that doesnt have to be there until neccessary (pre contest)
4) Bloodwork - (get a 10-20% off coupon online) and go to Discount Online Blood Chemistry Tests & Results, Wellness & Anti Aging Direct Access Laboratory Testing and order up the full anti aging male profile once a year and another time during the year get a full CBC ..... be true to yourself and get them done at pertinent times.....when you are on so you can see what is happening....every guy reading this right now is going to have great bloodwork 6 weeks off...its the previous 24 weeks you were on that matters. If cost is an issue try this Online Blood Testing | Discount Blood Tests - DiscountedLabs.com and its cheaper...but i havent used them personally so you'll have to go thru it.
5) Im zooming thru this because i really dont have a lot of time today but these terms need to be studied by you and something needs to be done about them if they are out of range on your bloodwork...and ill put asterisks next to things that are double important
*glucose
*BUN
*creatinine
*GFR
*bun/creatinine ratio
ldh
*hdl
*ast
*alt
cholesterol
*triglycerides
*ldl
chol/hdl ratio
RBC
*hemoglobin
*hematocrit
Rdw
*PSA
So i talked about liver and how i feel its a lesser problem in bodybuilding. If orals are ever being used or AST or ALT are high for various reasons Tudca should be used (not chronically and longterm though as it looks like right now)...and a general liver health supplement should be used probably year round.
cardiomyopathy = curcumin BCM 400mg morn nite
kidneys = keep blood pressure down at all times and at all costs, along with keeping hydrated and that should save you from a fate you never want to go thru....in fact the next person who reads this and is doing nothing about their high blood pressure because "you dont want to deal with it"...go read up on kidney failure and kidney dialysis and what your life will be like when you do that (and with chronically high blood pressure its not IF its WHEN...you will be going thru that)....so unless you want to quickly kiss being any kind of bodybuilder goodbye (and that decision will happen real quickly once the process starts) and want to be hooked up to a dialysis machine 3 days a week for 6 hours at a time....do something about your blood pressure.
Hematocrit and hemoglobin= donating blood, (maybe inhibition of the DHT process--still looking into that, maybe a slight decrease from chelation/iron metabolism interuption) but donating blood is the only set in stone method right now.
Cancer - overlooked greatly in the general thinking of most bodybuilders but it seems to be happening more and more frequently. These guys usually dissapear off the board fairly quickly because they have better things to do (like trying to live) than worrying about utmost muscle mass. A guy named Ridge comes to mind who was on this board last year i believe, another recently is a national competitor who had colon cancer, and another known name in the sport with prostate cancer all come to mind. I think prostate cancer (which has estrogen and DHT connections) is going to the problem for many male bodybuilders as they get into their 40's 50's 60's. This raises a whole other can of worms in which i feel prostates are way overbiopsied, and doctors go into panic mode on a great many things concerning the prostate when a "wait and monitor approach" and "targeted ultrasound" without 12 point biopsies should be the first option...but i digress. Thats a discussion for another day/
So these are the compounds i would study cancer wise and prevention wise
and you can put any of these compounds in google with cancer and see whats up
again ill put an asterisk next to the ones I feel are gigantically worthy and have the research to back them up
*Zyflamend
*grape seed extract (that is a large study Grape Seed Extract protects against prostate cancer 61%!!! )
*boswellia serrata
zeaxanthin and lutein (yes the 2 compounds that help tremendously with macular degeneration also are involved with cancer inhibition)
*curcumin obviously
*pomegranate
lycopene (maybe...this one comes and goes...lately its back on)
ginger root
melatonin
querecetin
ubiquinol
allicin garlic
green tea
olive leaf
*IP3 / phytic acid
aspirin (PSA is always lower with aspirin)
Pomi-T A double-blind, placebo RCT evaluating the effect of a polyphenol-rich whole food supplement on PSA progression in men with prostate cancer: The U.K. National Cancer Research Network (NCRN) Pomi-T study. | 2013 ASCO Annual Meeting | Abstracts | Meeti
(courtesy of Big Mike) [ame="http://www.amazon.com/LifeSource-Blood-Pressure-Monitor-AccuFit/dp/B000VXO4JE"]Amazon.com: LifeSource Blood Pressure Monitor with AccuFit Extra Large Cuff: Health & Personal Care@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41YFsDxXLeL.@@AMEPARAM@@41YFsDxXLeL[/ame]
Take your blood pressure for a week straight upon arising..... get a baseline going.....if its high do something about it!!!
If its seriously high get carditone right away
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Ayush-Herbs-891501001111-Carditone-caplets/dp/B000S0CVDQ"]Amazon.com: Carditone 60 caplets: Health & Personal Care@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41RKSkKmjTL.@@AMEPARAM@@41RKSkKmjTL[/ame]
next day mail service and get on one tab morn and one tab nite. I just put another guy on it who was 170/110 and it got him down to 135/80-85 by the end of a week. Then figure out what is giving you high blood pressure (compounds, diet, obesity, lack of cardio etc etc etc) and fix it! Fix it so you can come down to 1/2 tab carditone morn and nite and then off of carditone. Fix it so if you are on a BP pres diuretic, you can go over to dandelion root morn and nite.
Everybody used to worry bout liver and kidneys in bodybuilding. Lets be honest for a second. Look at this board over the last 10 years....how many liver problems have you seen? Not many. How many kidney problems have you seen? Quite a few and its a problem. How many heart attack and cardiomyopathy problems have you seen? Alot and its a problem. How much cancer threads have you seen? Seems to be many more cancer threads happening over the last few years havent there? There is a problem. (i have my ideas on what is raising those incidences but it goes directly against some of the sponsors of this board so im going to keep my mouth shut on that one).....this is more about preventative maintenance.
So the big problems in my mind as to people "on the sauce" and longevity is the following
1) I cannot stand the phrase "your only as big as your dosage", in fact i think its utter bullshit. I dwarf people in my gym who are on 1300mg a week of test, along with tren and dball (<---they tell me what they are on) yet im over here doing 200-250mg TRT....so yea i think most people dont have a fu*&ing clue in the world on how to eat, train, and supplement to gain muscle mass and in my case maintain muscle mass. Im off subject like usual...my point was change the phrase "your only as big as your dosage" to "whatever my bloodwork deems is safe is what I can use"....thats what the saying should be..... if you are out of range, then you need to figure it out.
(addendum: unless you are welcoming cardiopathy by using sauce and GH chronically)
2) last 4 weeks before a show, take everything i am saying in this post and throw it in the waste basket. Obviously you are going for the win...and the win doesnt involve superb bloodwork. It is what it is.
3) Never use orals offseason if you can. 4-8 weeks preshow only. I can see maybe using an oral one day a week in offseason on a weak bodypart day or the recovery day for that weak bodypart....but lets get down to brass tacks....orals drive your HDL into the ground, are always an adenoma risk (see this board do a search for adenoma...look at what they used every time!) and are just a toxic risk that doesnt have to be there until neccessary (pre contest)
4) Bloodwork - (get a 10-20% off coupon online) and go to Discount Online Blood Chemistry Tests & Results, Wellness & Anti Aging Direct Access Laboratory Testing and order up the full anti aging male profile once a year and another time during the year get a full CBC ..... be true to yourself and get them done at pertinent times.....when you are on so you can see what is happening....every guy reading this right now is going to have great bloodwork 6 weeks off...its the previous 24 weeks you were on that matters. If cost is an issue try this Online Blood Testing | Discount Blood Tests - DiscountedLabs.com and its cheaper...but i havent used them personally so you'll have to go thru it.
5) Im zooming thru this because i really dont have a lot of time today but these terms need to be studied by you and something needs to be done about them if they are out of range on your bloodwork...and ill put asterisks next to things that are double important
*glucose
*BUN
*creatinine
*GFR
*bun/creatinine ratio
ldh
*hdl
*ast
*alt
cholesterol
*triglycerides
*ldl
chol/hdl ratio
RBC
*hemoglobin
*hematocrit
Rdw
*PSA
So i talked about liver and how i feel its a lesser problem in bodybuilding. If orals are ever being used or AST or ALT are high for various reasons Tudca should be used (not chronically and longterm though as it looks like right now)...and a general liver health supplement should be used probably year round.
cardiomyopathy = curcumin BCM 400mg morn nite
kidneys = keep blood pressure down at all times and at all costs, along with keeping hydrated and that should save you from a fate you never want to go thru....in fact the next person who reads this and is doing nothing about their high blood pressure because "you dont want to deal with it"...go read up on kidney failure and kidney dialysis and what your life will be like when you do that (and with chronically high blood pressure its not IF its WHEN...you will be going thru that)....so unless you want to quickly kiss being any kind of bodybuilder goodbye (and that decision will happen real quickly once the process starts) and want to be hooked up to a dialysis machine 3 days a week for 6 hours at a time....do something about your blood pressure.
Hematocrit and hemoglobin= donating blood, (maybe inhibition of the DHT process--still looking into that, maybe a slight decrease from chelation/iron metabolism interuption) but donating blood is the only set in stone method right now.
Cancer - overlooked greatly in the general thinking of most bodybuilders but it seems to be happening more and more frequently. These guys usually dissapear off the board fairly quickly because they have better things to do (like trying to live) than worrying about utmost muscle mass. A guy named Ridge comes to mind who was on this board last year i believe, another recently is a national competitor who had colon cancer, and another known name in the sport with prostate cancer all come to mind. I think prostate cancer (which has estrogen and DHT connections) is going to the problem for many male bodybuilders as they get into their 40's 50's 60's. This raises a whole other can of worms in which i feel prostates are way overbiopsied, and doctors go into panic mode on a great many things concerning the prostate when a "wait and monitor approach" and "targeted ultrasound" without 12 point biopsies should be the first option...but i digress. Thats a discussion for another day/
So these are the compounds i would study cancer wise and prevention wise
and you can put any of these compounds in google with cancer and see whats up
again ill put an asterisk next to the ones I feel are gigantically worthy and have the research to back them up
*Zyflamend
*grape seed extract (that is a large study Grape Seed Extract protects against prostate cancer 61%!!! )
*boswellia serrata
zeaxanthin and lutein (yes the 2 compounds that help tremendously with macular degeneration also are involved with cancer inhibition)
*curcumin obviously
*pomegranate
lycopene (maybe...this one comes and goes...lately its back on)
ginger root
melatonin
querecetin
ubiquinol
allicin garlic
green tea
olive leaf
*IP3 / phytic acid
aspirin (PSA is always lower with aspirin)
Pomi-T A double-blind, placebo RCT evaluating the effect of a polyphenol-rich whole food supplement on PSA progression in men with prostate cancer: The U.K. National Cancer Research Network (NCRN) Pomi-T study. | 2013 ASCO Annual Meeting | Abstracts | Meeti
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