Fair enough but I still don't get why you posted what you did over me using the word "waist". When I say waist I think of my belly. The dictionary definition of waist is "the part of the human body below the ribs and above the hips, often narrower than the areas above and below." That is the area I am going on about. Yes it's pretty much your "gut" but your internal obliques and transverse abdominis come into play. Even lower back fat can have an effect too. That's why I mentioned some of those body weight exercises as they 100% can make a difference.
I just call it all my waist as that is mine (and most peoples) definition of the entire area. If you buy pants you get a 28, 32, 38 inch
waist.
Just post a pic now. I am not going to judge you. I am curious what a 28 inch waist looks like on a man. Some guys do have tiny waists. My waist was 32 inches when I weighed much less and I have very wide hips. Here is a pic of my waist and I don't know the exact measurement but it's EASILY 36 inches in this pic. I bet I could say 32 inches and people would believe me but it's not the truth. I will post 2 as it looks smaller in the top one but the view is blocked. By the way I am nothing special either and would get destroyed on any bodybuilding stage. But that's me so I post my pics. I post pics when I look terrible as well. Just trying to illustrate my waist probably looks smaller when I am in shape than it really is. I would have never posted my pics in this thread if it weren't for your posts. I was just trying to offer tips that have worked for me. I need to show how bad my waist can really be to illustrate the below is really good for me.