That was my point Phil ...............if he was to come on here and lay out what he would do if he was building a top bber [not what he is doing himself or exposesing his guru's method's] with what he has learned in the game [ this was to include diet , training , supps , and drugs ] I am sure it would not be too extreme and would be something that most of these guys have either done or have knowledge of anyway ..........I figured if an honest outspoken guy [ like King ]layed it out in detail for them ........then they would see that the sport isn't about secret routines and drugs combos ........it is about genetics , hard work , and dissapline......nothing more ........that was my point ......I don't even use drugs and haven't for along time [ I can't find a valid reason to , although I may do some sort of hrt as I get older]........I do like to stay informed ,as I have many friends that still are involved with thier use ............But I learned along time ago that drugs are just a small part of the final equation [ although the champs tend to respond the best when using them ......I know guys with great frames , structures , and muscle bellies that just don't do well with gear and never could push to the level of guys with lesser genes that really blow up with the gear]
I don't find him giving details as to what he has learned as direspecting His trainers .I know for a fact Magnum will lay out everything he does in detail out for these guys free of charge . He will go into details about proticals , and his diets at any time with right people or when things are dicussed in the right forums........He knows that the info he shares needs to be treaked and put together by him for it to used for the best results .....he also knows his honesty gives him credibility and probably makes his demends higher as far as clients go as well . [ This is was Doggcrap did in the begining as well and that is why he is where he is today ......yes, he regrets it at times I am sure ........he became successful for the simple reason , he gave out alot of free very honest detailed information and people started to try / trust his methods period ........If he had your belief that your detailed info if is for your paying clients only .......then I assure you he would have never built up the following he has ......it doesn't dissrespect your clients to share your methods , the guys that are going to pay you are smart enough to know that everybody is different and it takes a special gift to be able to train people like you , Jim and DC .........Jim gets it , DC gets it .........you just don't agree [ and I respect you and your ways ] But the mystery adds to the believe in these skewed ideas that so many bbers have about all this magic stuff .......The reason I posed this question to King is because he is a pro [ an honest one and these kids want the truth from a pro ,since you won't lay it out for them in detail , I thought King might ] and he is also a friend of Jim's ........so I know the kind of guy he is .......I didn't think that it was impropper because Jim is so up front and honest .......I thought I was clear as to why I want him to answer my questions in detail ......to educate and help these guys see the truth ....[ just like you do .....although I think your pay me for the goods belief hurts your business as well as the measage you are trying to teach these guys , and adds to this whole mystery crap that the kids buy into .....you have always been great to me and always offered help behind the scenes to me at no expense many times . But people dont see that or are not exposed to the awesome things you are trying to do here . I hate that it seems that more than half of the 8400 members seem to have you pegged wrong , I know you don't care , but I do because your message is correct ,but I feel your ideas of what and how you choose to share your vast knowledge could be better shared ......You know I like and respect you quite abit , but I am a business man and I don't get your philosophy what so ever........I guess to each his own .......the one thing you and I both share in common is that we love building muscle [ and everythings that goes into it ] , I just believe that all these guys are my brothers in iron and I just don't think you see it that way ]
Happy Holidays Phil , King , and everyone else ........sorry for the long post ......I wanted to clarify this for King , Phil , and the rest of you fellas ...........I wanted King to answer my question in a detailed manner for the simple fact that his answer might help bbers see that isn't that complicated . If more guys concentrated on eating right , and getting stronger with good form [ ever seen DC's guys train ? They workout like Dorian ...... just perfect] then we would have alot more healier ,better , and bigger bbers walking around period .....this wasnt a ,"Mr King tell us your secrets so I can be pro too "kind of thread .......lol.......I would thought Phil would have known better when it comes to me ............ha ha .......shoot , I would rather know what he eats ......ha ha ......that is more my speed these days ...........all my best fellas .........
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