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good post, but let me say that if i was the burn victim i would want a blend of whey and beef collagen!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! I just laughed/snorted/almost spit my decaf coffee out!
good post, but let me say that if i was the burn victim i would want a blend of whey and beef collagen!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! I just laughed/snorted/almost spit my decaf coffee out!
I think a roation of those would be perfect......diversity is the key.
Brineal, is that your back in your avatar? Have you been in this sport a long time and tried a lot of products???????? Do you compete at a high level? Im just sayin..........you sound so authoratative and so confident of yourself because of the 1 chart you pasted with the nice colors........I am wondering what practical experience you have had with products such as this.
1. Who are you? Do you know what that graph means? What information does it pass on? Does it distinguish a good protein source?yes it is my back phil, and i remembered shelby starnes posting that graph over at intensemuscle in a thread about lba's...i believe he found it posted by lyle macdonald over at his site, i didnt make that graph, i was just passing information on...is there something wrong with posting that phil, i thought that was what forums like these are meant for? i think it applies to the topic being talked about, i didnt say anything positive or negative about lbas, just to draw their own conclusions, and that would be thru whatever means, trying them, not trying them - whatever it doesnt make a bit of difference to me. i guess i dont see what the problem is? can you point out where i said anything remotely "authoratative" or "confident in myself" in that post phil? or maybe another post that ive made with regards to bodybuilding - im assuming thats what youre talking about, posts regarding bodybuilding, which is what this site is supposed to be about, right? maybe you can provide an example so i can see what youre talking about...ill be the first to admit and make amends if ive posted something off base...
1. Who are you? Do you know what that graph means? What information does it pass on? Does it distinguish a good protein source?
2. Where have you been when all of the LBA threads were on here?
3. Hydrolyzed Beef Collagen is a GREAT protein source.....hospitals are now using it in the burn ward for recovery. Did you not read the latest studies?
4. Did Shelby Starnes or Lyle Macdonald use it exclusively for their IFBB Pro Card?
5. This is not bodybuilding what you are professing ......it is a witch hunt with fancy graphs and decietfull verbage used to propell your agenda....what ever that may be.
6. This is professional bodybuilding......if someone has a good idea and it shows in his physique and 1000s of people try it and say the same thing, I have no words to describe someone that keeps questioning it
7. Again, what practical experience do you have with this product? Instead of guessing about........pondering about it........try it.
you still havent shown any examples of where i said anything either way about lbas or about being authoratative about lbas, i havent said anything either way - deceitful verbage? where phil? CAN YOU PROVIDE DIRECT QUOTES FOR THAT WHICH YOU ARE ACCUSING? - i dont see what is deceitful about saying draw your own conclusions...? i havent said ANYTHING about whether they are high quality or low quality in this thread. (actually you can take a look at my post history, and youll see that in one thread i said that they benefit of lbas was high quality protein w/ fewer calories - look it up) witch hunt? what are you talking about? agenda? i have no idea what youre talking about, i dont make money off them, i dont lose money off them, i have no financial or other interest in them whatsoever... i suspect this has more to do with your bachelor thread than about lbas phil...
1. HAVE YOU TRIED LBAs?.....is this one too tough for you to answer? I saw your graph........now answer this. BTW the Bachelor loves the LBAs!
ive only tasted the chocolate, never used for an extended period of time, which is why i didnt make any judgements ANYWHERE in this thread as to how good or bad they are and didnt recommend that the OP try or not try them...and i only posted the graph because the comparison b/w whey and the lbas was part of the discussion
1. You just tried chocolate........but never gave it a chance? Yet ,you post a graph on an LBA thread telling us to draw our own conclusions.........How do you know if it is a good product? You post a graph and tell people to come to their own conclusions.....what conclusions are we to come to? What does that graph conclude? Do not you agreee that trying something will give you the best conclusion? Pertaining to yourself.....why abandon ship?
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draw your own conclusions...
I was being serious ! think about what i said and what whey has the highest concentration of and what that substance does! thats why if i was looking for optimal recovery i would want a blend of beef collagen and whey proteinHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! I just laughed/snorted/almost spit my decaf coffee out!
If this is not telling me to look at the graph and draw my own conclusions.....then you have to explain things in a different way.
i really didnt think it was necessary to explain differently because i wasnt making ANY recommendations or judgements on ANY of the products being discussed - i guess you see the graph as saying lbas are bad? or that people reading the graph would draw that conclusion? - i dont think so, all it shows is the differences in the amino breakdowns - the graph doesnt say that either is better than the other - someone asked about the diff. b/w whey and lba - and the graph shows some of the differences - it doesnt make a judgement (its not like the title is whey rules & lbas are shit or something)... i suppose if you come into the thread with the idea that i am here to be a dick and undermine you personally phil - which i can guarantee you im not here to do (that would be asinine of me, its no secret to me that you know much more about bbing than i do), then that would be how you'd interpret what i said. as for differences b/w whey and lba - i think you can derive some conclusions from the graph, but an ultimate judgement on the efficacy and worth of either product - no, of course you cant, which is why i didnt say anything either way about whey or lbas.
i really didnt think it was necessary to explain differently because i wasnt making ANY recommendations or judgements on ANY of the products being discussed - i guess you see the graph as saying lbas are bad? or that people reading the graph would draw that conclusion? - i dont think so, all it shows is the differences in the amino breakdowns - the graph doesnt say that either is better than the other - someone asked about the diff. b/w whey and lba - and the graph shows some of the differences - it doesnt make a judgement (its not like the title is whey rules & lbas are shit or something)... i suppose if you come into the thread with the idea that i am here to be a dick and undermine you personally phil - which i can guarantee you im not here to do (that would be asinine of me, its no secret to me that you know much more about bbing than i do), then that would be how you'd interpret what i said. as for differences b/w whey and lba - i think you can derive some conclusions from the graph, but an ultimate judgement on the efficacy and worth of either product - no, of course you cant, which is why i didnt say anything either way about whey or lbas.
But.........to come here and show a graph and tell me you TASTED LBAs......TASTED? You say if it aint broke dont fix it as saying you will not try them......does that really make sense?You never tried them? Did you ever TASTE GH? Isnt that bodybuilding...........experimenting? You TASTED them..........I think that is where the disconnect comes in.