Letrozole

[RamboStallone]

Ran letro the past week cuz I looked like a water buffalo. I'm on 1.4g of test total a week. I dropped a decent amount of water pretty quickly, I like that dry look letro gives. I'll post some pics soon.

 

[RamboStallone]

This is prior;

This is after running letro a good 5-6 days;

 

[johnjuanb1]

This is prior;

This is after running letro a good 5-6 days;

You look a lot more defined after the letrozole!

 

[DORIAN*]

You look a lot more defined after the letrozole!

I think letro is ideal for drying out especially when high doses of AAS are being used.

 

[johnjuanb1]

I think letro is ideal for drying out especially when high doses of AAS are being used.

True. It's perfect the final weeks before a bodybuilding competition.

 

[Elvia1023]

True. It's perfect the final weeks before a bodybuilding competition.

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Letro and winny together can do amazing things to an already lean physique in a matter of days-weeks. If someone was really going for it then sdrol and lr3 could be added for even more dramatic results.

 

[HimRoid]

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Letro and winny together can do amazing things to an already lean physique in a matter of days-weeks. If someone was really going for it then sdrol and lr3 could be added for even more dramatic results.

That would be perfect for a photo shoot.

 

[DORIAN*]

Rambo how are you getting on with it now? Any more changes since the pics were taken? I remember letro changed me fast when I used it last.

 

[addams29]

Fellas, i always keep Letrozole on hand, like i mentioned in previous posts i am a bit gyno prone. Had the surgery like 15 yrs ago, but stupid doc DID NOT remove all the glands. With that said, i switched the last 6 weeks of my blast to put on extra mass, and break through a slight plateau. Still on 4iu GH/day, but now im doing .....
600 mg Test E/wk
40 mg Dianabol/day
100 MG Anadrol 50/day
100 mg Tren Ace e/o/d
My ancilliaries include....
50 mg Proviron/day
20 mg Nolvadex e/o/d
0.5 mg Cabergoline on Mon and Thurs(for Tren induced prolactin)
So my question to you bros more experienced than me, ive read countless testimonies/posts, and other info from what i know to be credible sources that Letro is so strong, that half a tab(1.25mg) taken say Mon and Thurs is powerful enough to tighten that chest area up rather quick, so my question is if i saw i needed to add in that specific dose of Letro, with the Test E, Proviron, and Cabergoline, will it affect my libido? Anyone have positive experiences on higher maybe doses of Letro, while using Test and it didnt affect your libido? Thanks.....Addams29

 

[DORIAN*]

Fellas, i always keep Letrozole on hand, like i mentioned in previous posts i am a bit gyno prone. Had the surgery like 15 yrs ago, but stupid doc DID NOT remove all the glands. With that said, i switched the last 6 weeks of my blast to put on extra mass, and break through a slight plateau. Still on 4iu GH/day, but now im doing .....
600 mg Test E/wk
40 mg Dianabol/day
100 MG Anadrol 50/day
100 mg Tren Ace e/o/d
My ancilliaries include....
50 mg Proviron/day
20 mg Nolvadex e/o/d
0.5 mg Cabergoline on Mon and Thurs(for Tren induced prolactin)
So my question to you bros more experienced than me, ive read countless testimonies/posts, and other info from what i know to be credible sources that Letro is so strong, that half a tab(1.25mg) taken say Mon and Thurs is powerful enough to tighten that chest area up rather quick, so my question is if i saw i needed to add in that specific dose of Letro, with the Test E, Proviron, and Cabergoline, will it affect my libido? Anyone have positive experiences on higher maybe doses of Letro, while using Test and it didnt affect your libido? Thanks.....Addams29

In regards to controlling aromatization there isn't a huge difference between the 3 main AI's.

Where did you get your tamoxifen from? Why are you dosing it like that? 10-20mg per day should be enough to get rid of gyno. I prefer small ed doses and would do that with the letro. However I know many who have had success with twice weekly dosing to help combat aromatization without causing libido issues or drying them out too much.

It's impossible to answer your question as everyone is different and there are so many variables (is everything you have dosed correctly etc). I have used 2.5mg letro ed and it crushed my libido until sexual desire was just a memory. I have also used it and my libido wasn't too bad. I will say some test, proviron and cabergoline will only help matters greatly. Have you had bloodwork done recently?

 

[addams29]

Thanks for your response Dorian
Yes bloodwork was done not even a month ago, everything was in normal range(BP was surprisingly low, as i have high BP)..but i take 80 mg/Diovan a day, and i "convinced" my doc i needed 50 mg Hydrochlorothiazide/day to get water out. Im surprisingly NOT bloated even with 100mg Adrol/day.
So with bloodwork, everything was in normal range, lipids, liver enzymes, C-Reactive protein(marker for inflammation) was very low(Thank you Inj. Curcumin!!), PSA levels, etc.
Also important to note, i do take MANY natural supps to combat side effects(too many to list now, but i will happily do it if anyone is curious), as well as Inj. Glut/Curc/Res/SOD/MB12.
Not that it matters greatly, but i forgot to list i also take 37mcg T3/day also.
My Tamoxifen is Balkan Pharmaceuticals. Its from a well known and trusted sponsor on this board, been dealing with them successfully for 14 years, Nolva tabs are 20mg.
The reason i dose this way, is at the direction of my BB'ing Coach. I just switched to that specific dose and application of Nolva when i started the Adrol. I dropped the Exemestane, i like a bit of estrogen in me. I see no problem with just taking 10mg Nolva/day if this dose is superior. I might add 1.25mg Letro on Mon/Wed/Fri just to dry me up a bit more, im sure my knees will love that!
So theoretically speaking and from a Pharmacological standpoint, even if i dose half a tab of Letro 3 X/week....and im Taking Test E(yes my dosages are accurate btw), Cabergoline, and Prov., would the libido enhancing effects of these be superior to offset any libido loss from the Letro? Yes Dorian you are right, everyone is different, but in this case, isnt this a "constant"?
Basically what it comes down to, is i have a "beach weekend" with my GF and her family weekend of Sept. 12, so im trying to come in as correct as i can. I also have Dandelion Root on hand. Ive used it before, 3 caps/day and you are constantly going to bathroom. Will lower BP a bit as well. Thank you in advance for any further input! Addams29

 

[addams29]

F***k i forgot to add in my original post, im also dosing Humalog 15iu pre workout, and 15iu post workout(timed perfectly so there is no overlap)......on training days only(5 days/week)
Hence the slightly higher than "normal" dose of T3

 

[DORIAN*]

Thanks for your response Dorian
Yes bloodwork was done not even a month ago, everything was in normal range(BP was surprisingly low, as i have high BP)..but i take 80 mg/Diovan a day, and i "convinced" my doc i needed 50 mg Hydrochlorothiazide/day to get water out. Im surprisingly NOT bloated even with 100mg Adrol/day.
So with bloodwork, everything was in normal range, lipids, liver enzymes, C-Reactive protein(marker for inflammation) was very low(Thank you Inj. Curcumin!!), PSA levels, etc.
Also important to note, i do take MANY natural supps to combat side effects(too many to list now, but i will happily do it if anyone is curious), as well as Inj. Glut/Curc/Res/SOD/MB12.
Not that it matters greatly, but i forgot to list i also take 37mcg T3/day also.
My Tamoxifen is Balkan Pharmaceuticals. Its from a well known and trusted sponsor on this board, been dealing with them successfully for 14 years, Nolva tabs are 20mg.
The reason i dose this way, is at the direction of my BB'ing Coach. I just switched to that specific dose and application of Nolva when i started the Adrol. I dropped the Exemestane, i like a bit of estrogen in me. I see no problem with just taking 10mg Nolva/day if this dose is superior. I might add 1.25mg Letro on Mon/Wed/Fri just to dry me up a bit more, im sure my knees will love that!
So theoretically speaking and from a Pharmacological standpoint, even if i dose half a tab of Letro 3 X/week....and im Taking Test E(yes my dosages are accurate btw), Cabergoline, and Prov., would the libido enhancing effects of these be superior to offset any libido loss from the Letro? Yes Dorian you are right, everyone is different, but in this case, isnt this a "constant"?
Basically what it comes down to, is i have a "beach weekend" with my GF and her family weekend of Sept. 12, so im trying to come in as correct as i can. I also have Dandelion Root on hand. Ive used it before, 3 caps/day and you are constantly going to bathroom. Will lower BP a bit as well. Thank you in advance for any further input! Addams29

If anything adrol tightens me up. It is an amazing oral when you are already very lean and just want muscle fullness whilst losing more bodyfat. So unless you are eating tonnes of food I would be surprised if adrol filled you full of water (even without the bp medication).

No you are right Balkan tamoxifen will be great as is your sponsor. After what you have written I would be dosing your tamoxifen differently. 10mg everyday would be a good start. Letro will definitely dry you out and improve the way you look for your beach weekend. You would think there is a constant but when dosing various drugs there never is. Sometimes one person could dose a set of drugs ones time and try again 2 years later and things are vastly differently (even if bloodwork dictates the same). But sure in a general sense 1.25mg letro 3 times weekly with your test dose and everything else and you should be fine in the libido department.

Don't forget though the higher someone goes in test dosage the more problems they are likely to encounter in the bedroom. I find approx 300mg per week to be my sweet spot but everyone is different. But your 600mg sounds good if letro is going to be used. Proviron makes a big difference and 50mg ed is a good dose to stay at. There are many variables but sure you should be gtg in regards to looking good and in the libido department.

Dandelion root can be great,,, I like the tea too. I would just up your water through the week leading up to the beach weekend and keep sodium fairly high. Nothing drastic needs to be done for this. Letro can transform a watery physique in a matter of days/weeks. Any weekend away with my girl will start with 30mg tadalafil before I leave and then I know I will be at 100% all weekend

 

[HimRoid]

If anything adrol tightens me up. It is an amazing oral when you are already very lean and just want muscle fullness whilst losing more bodyfat. So unless you are eating tonnes of food I would be surprised if adrol filled you full of water (even without the bp medication).

No you are right Balkan tamoxifen will be great as is your sponsor. After what you have written I would be dosing your tamoxifen differently. 10mg everyday would be a good start. Letro will definitely dry you out and improve the way you look for your beach weekend. You would think there is a constant but when dosing various drugs there never is. Sometimes one person could dose a set of drugs ones time and try again 2 years later and things are vastly differently (even if bloodwork dictates the same). But sure in a general sense 1.25mg letro 3 times weekly with your test dose and everything else and you should be fine in the libido department.

Don't forget though the higher someone goes in test dosage the more problems they are likely to encounter in the bedroom. I find approx 300mg per week to be my sweet spot but everyone is different. But your 600mg sounds good if letro is going to be used. Proviron makes a big difference and 50mg ed is a good dose to stay at. There are many variables but sure you should be gtg in regards to looking good and in the libido department.

Dandelion root can be great,,, I like the tea too. I would just up your water through the week leading up to the beach weekend and keep sodium fairly high. Nothing drastic needs to be done for this. Letro can transform a watery physique in a matter of days/weeks. Any weekend away with my girl will start with 30mg tadalafil before I leave and then I know I will be at 100% all weekend

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Anadrol is the best preworkout when your dieting. I like the inject version best.

 

[RamboStallone]

Rambo how are you getting on with it now? Any more changes since the pics were taken? I remember letro changed me fast when I used it last.

Elbows are starting to ache, last time that happened my estrogen was in the low teens.

I'm a bit unorthodox. I like to do 1.25mg daily for a couple weeks which usually plummets my estrogen. Then I drop the letro and either run exemestane or no AI at all. Once I feel estrogen has risen again usually after a month or so, I do it all over again. So far I'm liking this approach.

 

[addams29]

Thanks Dorian, some great info you posted there. So between your reccomendations and my coaches, i will do just what im doing and should be GTG.
Yeah i love Cialis myself, i dose like 10mg/day(real low, i know)....to skip the headaches, and reap the benefits, lowering my BP is one of them, other one is im with my girl like 6 days a week till she moves in. I don't NEED the Cialis, shit The Test E, Prov, Caber, Test Base(pre workout), they do the job, even too much! Lol, its just added "fun" for me.
Interesting on how you react to Adrol. Im used to seeing people "blow up", and hold a shit ton of water, of course i dont know what else they have in their arsenal. I am staying lean at 100mg Adrol/day, but like we mentioned, for me at least, there are other variables at play. I dont believe i would achieve this result if i was NOT taking GH, T3, Prov.....and the muscle hardness from the Prov at 50mg/day is incredible.
I think to "jump start" my next blast, i will definately do 100mg/day Adrol for the first 6 weeks.
What also perplexes me, and my coach figured out i am very carb sensitive( hence the reason my macros are what they are), i technically should look more bloated, but i dont.
Thanks for the heads up about the water and sodium before that weekend, will do just that. Dorian how would you run that, put maybe 5 teaspoons of sea salt into a gallon of spring water and drink throughout the day? Thanks brother!!

 

[deebo]

Letrozole is currently the most powerful aromatase inhibitor available. It has been shown to reduce estrogen levels by 98% or more. Intravenous administration of Letrozole lowered Estrogen by 46% in the young men tested, and 62% in the elderly subjects. Because estrogen is part of the negative feedback loop of the HPTA, Letrozole (and other anti-estrogens) are able to raise testosterone in male subjects. Letrozole was studied in men, and found to significantly increase LH levels to a 339 and 323% in the young and the elderly, respectively and Testosterone by 146 and 99%, respectively.

Letrozole was also able to produce a peak LH response to Gonadatropin Releasing Hormone equal to a 152 and 52% increase from baseline in either young or older men, respectively. In a similar study 0.02 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 45% after 2 days. That same twenty micrograms of Letrozole was also enough, in one study done on men, to reduce estrogen levels by roughly a third. Letrozole has a 2-4 day half-life, and it needs to be taken for up to 60 days to get a steady blood plasma level. Letro is best dosed from 0.125-2.5 mgs depending on the desired effect.

Does anyone get depressed on Letrozole?

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[addams29]

Nope. I dont believe it affects serotonin levels in the brain to such a degree that would cause this effect. I think if i at least had such a "side effect" from Letro, i would double up on my fish oil, i would take some SAMe and 5htp to start. However i never heard of anyone having such an effect. I would think however, theoretically speaking of course, if your natural testosterone levels are low, and estrogen/progesterone levels crashed due to Letro use.....you might create a perfect storm similar to coming off of a cycle, and not using a proper PCT, getting your HPTA back in order, hence the fat gain, mood swings(low testosterone), and low libido. In that case you created an environment for these things to occur. Testosterone is the male hormone, of course as we know, yes exogenous use will build rudiculous amounts of muscle, depending on how much you used, and lets not forget it brings about feelings of well being.
So yes i see the study noted above that (on paper) Letro seems to raise testosterone levels if im quoting that correctly, but if that were accurrate, would we all have a libido thats "dead" while on Letro, depending on dosage and duration of course? I think some of the bros here are more qualified to give an answer on this than I. Dorian for example gave me some great advice and specofic course of action to take on MY SPECIFIC situation, and as i listed, there were MANY variables at play.
Are you dosing Letro only, and feeling depressed? Are you using anti-e's in addition? Any Test? GH???

 

[DORIAN*]

Thanks Dorian, some great info you posted there. So between your reccomendations and my coaches, i will do just what im doing and should be GTG.
Yeah i love Cialis myself, i dose like 10mg/day(real low, i know)....to skip the headaches, and reap the benefits, lowering my BP is one of them, other one is im with my girl like 6 days a week till she moves in. I don't NEED the Cialis, shit The Test E, Prov, Caber, Test Base(pre workout), they do the job, even too much! Lol, its just added "fun" for me.
Interesting on how you react to Adrol. Im used to seeing people "blow up", and hold a shit ton of water, of course i dont know what else they have in their arsenal. I am staying lean at 100mg Adrol/day, but like we mentioned, for me at least, there are other variables at play. I dont believe i would achieve this result if i was NOT taking GH, T3, Prov.....and the muscle hardness from the Prov at 50mg/day is incredible.
I think to "jump start" my next blast, i will definately do 100mg/day Adrol for the first 6 weeks.
What also perplexes me, and my coach figured out i am very carb sensitive( hence the reason my macros are what they are), i technically should look more bloated, but i dont.
Thanks for the heads up about the water and sodium before that weekend, will do just that. Dorian how would you run that, put maybe 5 teaspoons of sea salt into a gallon of spring water and drink throughout the day? Thanks brother!!

I wouldn't necessarily add to sodium but just not lower it like many people do. Use a good quality salt on certain meals and the rest of your food should contain enough. It looks like you are gonna get some great results. Yes proviron is great for muscle hardness and other hardness If I was gonna put anything into water it would be squeezed lemons. They really help detox the body and it's gonna taste nicer than salt