TREST trt+

[bigzzz]

Have you ever tried adding HCG to try and counteract the low semen volume produced from Trestolone?

I have read multiple times that doesn't do shit.

 

[headtrainer]

i'd rather use P5P in responsible doses than use a dopamine agonist. it's a much safer option. I think a DA should be reserved as a last resort option.

Have you ever had blood work done to verify that P5P actually lowers prolactin? I know of people who've tried supplementing with b6 to try and help lower prolactin and it didn’t work.

 

[BaetrixReloaded]

Have you ever had blood work done to verify that P5P actually lowers prolactin? I know of people who've tried supplementing with b6 to try and help lower prolactin and it didn’t work.

I use it preemptively to keep prolactin from getting high. so while using 19-nors, I have bloodwork to show my prolactin in range. it typically won't do much for you if your prolactin is already high, in which case you'll either have to lower dosage or implement a dopamine agonist like caber.

 

[juggy38]

I can tank prolactin with inhibit P on 200mg tren

 

[Sully1234]

trest can increase your prolactin, but this can be managed by taking pre-emptive P5P daily. you definitely want to keep an eye on your blood pressure too. as juggy stated what you're proposing isn't really trt+, maybe something like 5mg/day on top of your trt dosage would make for a nice trt+/enhanced cruise. MENT also does have azoospermia effects, so just keep that in mind as well.

How much P5P?

 

[headtrainer]

I can tank prolactin with inhibit P on 200mg tren

How much are you taking daily?

 

[KillerStack]

Have you ever tried adding HCG to try and counteract the low semen volume produced from Trestolone?

Unfortunately not yet. I'm going to try it.

I have a question for you or anyone else. Clomid has been associated with dramatically increased semen volume in some. At least that's what I've read on forums many times. My question is if it only works like this when off gear (like I would assume)? Or does anyone think Clomid can "work" even on some gear? This question goes back 20 years, when Dante said he wanted guys to use Clomid in their cruise phases. Many said Clomid absolutely will not do anything if you're suppressed and still taking hormones but Dante disagreed based on his experience. Unfortunately I never got around to trying and seeing for myself.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

If you get REAL accurately dosed ment, 25mg per day is about as high as most can handle.

MOST of these guys running 50mg ED are either running poorly dosed MENT, or not checking their BP daily. Trest does something the to renin-angiotensin pathway that can sometimes totally fuck up BP. There are outliers, @Dieselboss @SouthernMuscle can push it higher, but they are the exception. Keep testosterone at high TRT levels, 150-250mg, makes dealing with ment much easier.

Trest is STRONG bud. Like I’d put it above tren on a mg-mg basis. Many can handle 300mg tren per week, most can’t handle over 200mg trest per week. The clinical trials for HRT were giving like 1mg daily.

Fuck yeah it’s strong
this is how i feel right now


my fat ass is even able to do chins again!

 

[Scorpyd]

I was using 10mg day Ment on top my CYP TRT and dropped to 6mg day for now. MENT is no joke.

 

[juggy38]

How much are you taking daily?

One dose at night, MP is a very strong dopamine agonists.

You’ll have to play with morning/evening dosage. Depending on neuro chemistry, it might be sedating or stimulating.

The dopamine pathways are so weird and convoluted.

Dopamine is a cunt compared to all the other neurotransmitters. Umm, thanks for making me want to be addicted to dangerous and unhealthy things D.

 

[jaxino]

Are there people here running trest for the trt+?

Like 200mg test/70mg trest per week? How does bloodwork etc. look on that? Any mental sides?

Consider that Mike Arnold wrote that now his standard cycle is 200 Test 70 Trest 70 Tren....
So what you posted is something like s little cycle.

I used Trestolone like that 525 Sust 350 Tren 350 Trest with Nolvadex to save my gyno and no other AIs. Weight and strength skyrocketed insanely fast. Also sex drive.
The good thing was that the first week when the Trest was building in my system i was looking GREAT.

This makes me think that a 70mg dose a week will be great for a TRT+ coupled with something like 125-150 TestE.

Like a guy stated here 25mg daily is the highest dose most people usually can handle without exploding on water retention.

 

[headtrainer]

Unfortunately not yet. I'm going to try it.

I have a question for you or anyone else. Clomid has been associated with dramatically increased semen volume in some. At least that's what I've read on forums many times. My question is if it only works like this when off gear (like I would assume)? Or does anyone think Clomid can "work" even on some gear? This question goes back 20 years, when Dante said he wanted guys to use Clomid in their cruise phases. Many said Clomid absolutely will not do anything if you're suppressed and still taking hormones but Dante disagreed based on his experience. Unfortunately I never got around to trying and seeing for myself.

When I got on TRT and tried to get my wife pregnant for a second time, the fertility specialist I was seeing at the time told me that I’d have to go completely off the TRT (200 mgs of test cypionate weekly) in order to try and get my fertility back. He prescribed me HCG and clomid and took me completely off TRT. I was doing fine on the HCG but the clomid made me feel emotional and it made my vision a little blurry. The doctor encouraged me to stay on the clomid even though I hated the way it made me feel because it has to be taken for a minimum of 3-4 months straight in order to receive its pro-fertility benefits. If this doctor was correct it would take using clomid for a lengthier time than a cruise to be of benefit. The side effects were bad and there was no improvement in my sperm count after 5 months of treatment. Therefore, I stopped taking that medication and continued on the HCH for a total of 9 months. Still no sperm! So he quit treating me and said there’s no hope. I tried HMG out of desperation for 3 months after starting the HCG and still no sperm. I went back on TRT and haven’t been off since. That was 30 years ago. Any extra semen that could be produced from Clomid is not worth it in my opinion.

 

[goback2013]

I never used trest. But when I conceived all my kids I was running nonstop cycles of DHB. Tren. Test. Whatever. only exception were my first two right out of high school.
But all others all while I was on copious amounts of gear. Namely tren. So..

 

[BaetrixReloaded]

How much P5P?

I think I mentioned elsewhere on this thread. 300mg split between am/pm

 

[CompoundLifts31]

I'm thinking about someone trying to measure out 2mgs of Trest when it's 50mgs/mL...

Edit: Ah actually it wouldn't be that hard with an insulin syringe.

 

[Scorpyd]

I'm thinking about someone trying to measure out 2mgs of Trest when it's 50mgs/mL...

Edit: Ah actually it wouldn't be that hard with an insulin syringe.

Just a smidge in the bottom of a 1/2 ml insulin syringe with do.

 

[hevi-head]

I'm thinking about someone trying to measure out 2mgs of Trest when it's 50mgs/mL...

Edit: Ah actually it wouldn't be that hard with an insulin syringe.

Especially with a 1/2 cc slin pin

 

[goback2013]

Especially with a 1/2 cc slin pin

Right. Or even a 30unit pin.

 

[headtrainer]

I use it preemptively to keep prolactin from getting high. so while using 19-nors, I have bloodwork to show my prolactin in range. it typically won't do much for you if your prolactin is already high, in which case you'll either have to lower dosage or implement a dopamine agonist like caber.

I don’t understand how P5P can prevent elevated prolactin levels yet it won’t help lower prolactin levels once they become elevated. Will you explain that too me? Thank you!

 

[Sully1234]

I think I mentioned elsewhere on this thread. 300mg split between am/pm

Yeah my bad, you did. I had this tab open for like a day and didnt refresh.