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It could definitely be from high BP. I voted for the tren and winstrol and both send my BP out of control.
I remember, it was qbkilla. He got his creatinine down after he stopped his cycle, but his case really had me thinking along with the fact was slightly elevated and my BUN is always high but that is probably due to my high protein diet.
Is Piss Foam something to really worry about ?
I'm only on Test...
color is light yellow, doesn't smell bad ! it's just its foamy
I assume they chose it because the massive bloat it causes leads to hypertension.Not sure why or how people are choosing anadrol as harmful to your kidneys??
Anyone care to share?
Chip
I think it's the benezol alcohol content in the gear that harms the kidneys. The thing that got me thinking this is a friend made me home-made fina/tren ace from cattle implants. I told him exactly how to make it, but he screwed up and made the benezol alcohol 40% of the total solution. After using it for awhile my urine test came back with blood in it and highly abnormal results. I recently googled kidney damage and benezol alcohol. A rat study came up proving that b.a. kills the kidneys in high dose. The reason I checked off tren in the poll here is because it's difficult to convert cattle implants to injection without using around a 20% b.a./b.b. solution. Any less and the implants don't dissolve.
Is Piss Foam something to really worry about ?
I'm only on Test...
color is light yellow, doesn't smell bad ! it's just its foamy
so wouldn't it just help to use it as soon as you draw it not let it sit at all and keep the jug upright.There is a sponsor here that has Tren W/O BB and BA it is only 80mg but in order to produce tren at higher doses ie 200mg ect. need to add solvents such as PEG , BB , BA .. while PEG directly cause cancer , BB and BA attack (desolve) the silicon rubber in syrenge plunger & vial stoper so every time injecting some silicon into your body , .. just leave in syrenge overnight and it melts the plunger , we do not think this is safe thus products from us are free of BB and BA and PEG and other solvents and are totally painless and swell free , we know at least 2 cases of kidney failure , both persons used tren before
Just a quick snapshot from their page.
I'm no expert, but most of what I've read seems to indicate that pro hormones are more liver toxic than just about every oral steroid.
Yes they are very harmful...everytime I see someone buying that crap I ask WHY would you do that?! Do you HATE your body and want to destroy it in order to look better for 6 weeks? AAS in moderation are safer from what I have seen also. I don't really use orals though...very rarely (other than proviron...love that stuff!).
so wouldn't it just help to use it as soon as you draw it not let it sit at all and keep the jug upright.
Agreed that AAS are not directly toxic to the kidneys and that kidney dammage in AAS users is related to uncontrolled BP.
Another key point here is the standard blood test of kidney function - creatinine -is totally dependent on muscle mass. Creatinine is a breakdown product of creatine, and your body's stores of creatine are most dependent on total muscle mass. Creatine supplementation will also raise total body stores.
If you have two people with the same kidney function and one has twice the muscle mass of the other, the one with 2x muscle mass is going to have a creatinine level that's about 2x higher. i.e. A 200 lbs bodybuilder with a blood creatinine level of 1.5 has much better kidney function than a 100 lb weakling with a creatinine level of 0.9.
Many docs forget to take this into account when advising what to do re elevated creatinine levels.
The place BBers get into trouble with kidneys is pre-contest, lasix, etc. which can cause acute kidney failure if not monitored carefully.
I think it's the benezol alcohol content in the gear that harms the kidneys. The thing that got me thinking this is a friend made me home-made fina/tren ace from cattle implants. I told him exactly how to make it, but he screwed up and made the benezol alcohol 40% of the total solution. After using it for awhile my urine test came back with blood in it and highly abnormal results. I recently googled kidney damage and benezol alcohol. A rat study came up proving that b.a. kills the kidneys in high dose. The reason I checked off tren in the poll here is because it's difficult to convert cattle implants to injection without using around a 20% b.a./b.b. solution. Any less and the implants don't dissolve.