Quite recently Dorian stated on some podcast that he only once started comp prep while using insulin but he wasn't losing fat at all whereas usually usually he could see changes within days of starting comp prep. Clearly something wrong with this statement as thousands upon thousands have successfully gotten shredded while on insulin. Luki said basically all his clients use insulin, it's must for maintaining fullness, and the guys get in shape and don't even use thyroid if I understood correctly. I think Dorian even said just his stomach grew, which doesn't really happen with a few odd low dose shots over a couple of weeks.
I'm a bit surprised how many here now say they think Dorian wasn't quite truthful about the drugs. In years past I caught quite a bit of flack for saying Dorian wasn't completely honest. The responses were along the lines of the usual "you are just jealous," "just because you can't do it you think no one can," "you do not understand genetic outliers," "I see black guys all the time with close to pro physiques training on the monkey bars at the park, drinking 40s and eating Mc Donald's" and on and on lol. IRL absolutely NO advanced bodybuilders trusted Dorian's claimed stacks, they actually told me, "how can you be so stupid and naive?" when I hadn't even said I believed the claims, just wanted their opinion, though sometimes the "vets" here were messing with my mind, I guess a form of gaslighting lol. I started doubting myself. The most incredible common statement was "why would he lie?" LMAO. As if there weren't multiple obvious reasons.
Dorian's claims have been pretty consistent though, so you can't really show many instances where he's obviously changed his story. Sometimes a few guys claimed their first steroid was Dianabol, then the next time it was Anavar. Then it was test + dbol and at other times it was Primo for 8 weeks (100mg only, I think Dorian said this) plus Anavar, maybe 15mg (20mg have been given to 8 year old girls for ayear straight "because it's a very mild steroid").
Recently Cormier said his first steroid was dbol, the first tablet made him gain 5lbs.