Does anyone still do PCT and off time?

[G.I.Bro]

they also had legit, accurately-dosed gear.



and who knows? some of them might have stayed on.. why wouldn't they? that's one thing that I don't understand about competitive bodybuilders -

I was reading on another site recently, where an upper-level national level competitor (who narrowly missed his pro card) said 'I've never gone above 2 grams a week, ever'. All these lemmings were agreeing with him and saying that anything above 2 grams a week is ridiculous/you better be mr. Olympia if you're running that much, etc.


whatever happened to fucking winning? did this guy mean to tell us that he put all that work into his diet, training, supplementation, etc...he let bodybuilding dictate his life choices SO much for so many years, but he'd rather lose than raise the dose past 2 grams?

guys spend years, decades of their life with a pro card as one of their main goals...but they won't up the dose a little bit (or a lot), in order to get it?

when Kevin Levrone finished second at the Olympia, do you think he was like 'aww fuck, guess i need to train harder and eat better'...? or do you think upping the drugs might have been in there too?


bodybuilding is one of the most competitive sports i can think of...yet, according to what many bodybuilders say, it seems to have some of the least competitive people (when you consider that it's the only sport where 'anything goes')

i guess what Big A said is true about people being full of shit.




sorry for the rant. lol

That's a keep it real post for the day! Nice. And I agree.

Most competitors do whatever the fuck it takes to win or place better (or improve). Then talk a bunch of bs later about moderation knowing full well they redlined it. If, for them, that means slamming a shit load of gear then they'll do it. Some guys are lucky and get by with less, more power to them. They preach moderation and are actually being honest. Guys fall all over that spectrum and it's hard knowing the truth because nobody wants to admit they need a lot more gear to keep up. I personally know I'd have to use a ton. I don't have the genetics. I have a friend who respond better on the same gear and basically the same diet. He just blows up when his doses go up. Then when I do use a lot of high dose compounds with orals and stuff, I feel toxic and can't eat, etc. I could never compete at that elite level, period. The focus on drugs should always be reduced and tempered, it's a good general message. But the reality is most dudes chasing a pro card (that I know) will do whatever the fuck it takes at the end of the day whether they admit it later or not.

Most people do one thing then say another. That's why when someone with good genetics, solid understanding, diet, training, etc., preaches lower doses, nobody believes it. At the same time, most people do whatever it takes to win at that level but wouldn't admit they risk their health habitually.

 

[TrinityD]

Nobody truly knows but them right Allex?

steroids 3.m4v: http://youtu.be/r0bgESntOB8

"Eq is just like Deca, without the sexual sides,
the problem is you have to take a lot of it,
you had to take 200mg a week, I only took 50mg"

Can't believe I wasted my time watching this video.
But it get's worse

"Bolasterone.... I took 1/2 a cc a day and my
incline dumbbell bench went from 80's to 150's in one week "

"I took GH for one week and got ripped to sheds"

What a complete joke.

I thought I had seen it all,but this was some of the worst trash I have ever seen posted on the internet. No wonder the general population has this nonsense in their mind about steroid users and how "easy" it is.

 

[pesty4077]

Yes, I usually get a mild headache and stuffed nose from viagra/cialis.

I did too, cut your dose in 1/2. I can't take anymore then 10 MG of Cialis at a time.

 

[pesty4077]

How do you know?

I started in the late 70's to 80's. Most of us only ran 10 week cycles and took at least 8 to 12 weeks off. This is guys who competed in regional shows. HCG was done for 3 of those weeks. Of course most of us were doing only about 200 MG of Test, 200 MG of deca or equipose and about 20 to 30 MG of D ball or 50 MG of anadrol for off season. Drop that oral and put in Winstrol and that was our contest gear. We got Pharmacy. I don't know any of my friends who competed in these regional shows to ever go over 1000 MG. We didn't do any insulin and GH was like finding an Unicorn. Most of them I still stay in touch with back east and they are still in good shape. These guys are in their 50's now.

 

[CHAPS]

So many people are afraid to admit this but I am dependent on cialis. Doesn't matter if I'm blasting or on TRT. I'll admit it.

edit: I am not married and don't have a girlfriend, so most of the time I have sex if with a different woman. If I have a steady gf, I don't need it as much.

Get a sleep study done, sleep disorders kill boners, you don't know until your tested.

 

[Dezzy]

"Eq is just like Deca, without the sexual sides,
the problem is you have to take a lot of it,
you had to take 200mg a week, I only took 50mg"

Can't believe I wasted my time watching this video.
But it get's worse

"Bolasterone.... I took 1/2 a cc a day and my
incline dumbbell bench went from 80's to 150's in one week "

"I took GH for one week and got ripped to sheds"

What a complete joke.

I thought I had seen it all,but this was some of the worst trash I have ever seen posted on the internet. No wonder the general population has this nonsense in their mind about steroid users and how "easy" it is.

I posted the wrong video. Dude was kind of all over the place in that one. But in some of the others he stated that in the 70's, they used low doses of testosterone, deca, anavar, dianabol, winstrol he said Arnold really like Primobolan and they got ready injects in a box from Europe.

 

[ALLEX]

I did too, cut your dose in 1/2. I can't take anymore then 10 MG of Cialis at a time.

Actually, 10mg once or twice a week is my usual dose.

Still get a few sides, including a mild headache most times.

I'm extremely sensitive to most drugs.

 

[little slice]

I posted the wrong video. Dude was kind of all over the place in that one. But in some of the others he stated that in the 70's, they used low doses of testosterone, deca, anavar, dianabol, winstrol he said Arnold really like Primobolan and they got ready injects in a box from Europe.

that's what he said in the video you posted.


either way, why does it matter what he says? the guy is retarded

 

[Dezzy]

that's what he said in the video you posted.


either way, why does it matter what he says? the guy is retarded

Because he trained with Arnold. He isn't just some dude off the street. If your not interested in what guys did in the golden ages of bodybuilding or what they claim to have done; so be it. I get it. But I find it fascinating personally and I admire their physiques. And i know a lot of people feel the same...