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I think they should call it what it really is.......starving.
I have terrible IBD, and it’s always been the limiting factor for me. During this last push, I actually have taken my 2 rest days a week to fast. Personally, as long as total weekly calories and protein are equated I’ve seen no difference so far I can notice vs when I forced the food daily.People overestimate how quickly you lose muscle. It takes 3-4 weeks of not training to start losing actual muscle (which comes back with muscle memory).
1-2 day fast, especially with HGH is unlikely cause significant muscle loss, if any at all.
As @TheOtherOne55 said, guys who do this stuff and talk about it aren't focusing on bodybuilding.
I don't think 1-2 day fast will do much harm once in a while but it's also properly overrated. You could likely get the same or similar benefits from long term intermittent fasting.
Ya know I could never get behind the Himalayan salt once I found out that the color is due to iron oxidesthe body will utilize adipose stores for fuel before it starts to cannibalize muscle, if you fast for 72hrs you are going to lose almost 0 muscle unless you are like stage lean or some shit. The "autophagy" benefits have been exaggerated for the most part unknown as in that it is heightened during a fast. for pracap, it sure does reset insulin sensitivity though. Just monitor what supps you are taking in during he fast, some stuff can be especially hard on the liver and kidneys in the absence of food.
If you are doing a water fast ensure you are taking your electrolytes. I like snake juice: per 2L of water add, 1/2 tsp Himalayan sea salt, 1 tsp potassium, 1 tsp sodium bicarbonate, 400mg Magnesium.
This is why I like it so much, bigger meals at night, wake up zero hunger all day. Coffee helps. You work, hit the gym, then fuel up 2 big meals, off to bed 8-9 hours sleep.I like fasting for two purposes...
1. Shorter (12-18 hour) fast for mental sharpness. I just don't eat the first 5-6 hours I'm awake each day and I'm much sharper mentally
2. Calorie control during a diet. I like bigger meals at night
Other than that, I think there is a lot to be desired with the hard science. I do think there could be some benefits for some of the morbidly obese out there, and people with serious metabolic disorder, etc.
Bro don’t even get me started on the pink salt bs… I think I’ve ranted about this here before already lolYa know I could never get behind the Himalayan salt once I found out that the color is due to iron oxides
But have you tried chocolate milkshakes? I prefer the Breyers for the higher fat content. Between starving on water and electrolytes vs washing your tacos down with a chocolate milkshake you are 10000% doing better with the tacos and milkshake every time.the body will utilize adipose stores for fuel before it starts to cannibalize muscle, if you fast for 72hrs you are going to lose almost 0 muscle unless you are like stage lean or some shit. The "autophagy" benefits have been exaggerated for the most part unknown as in that it is heightened during a fast. for pracap, it sure does reset insulin sensitivity though. Just monitor what supps you are taking in during he fast, some stuff can be especially hard on the liver and kidneys in the absence of food.
If you are doing a water fast ensure you are taking your electrolytes. I like snake juice: per 2L of water add, 1/2 tsp Himalayan sea salt, 1 tsp potassium, 1 tsp sodium bicarbonate, 400mg Magnesium.
I have no idea what you are talking about here, the guy asked about water fasting. The amount of muscle tissue lost during a 72-hour water fast is next to nothing if anything. That said that tiessue would come back immediately. It takes about the first 24 hours or a bit less to fully deplete all glycogen stores, so you are not losing any tissue in that window, then once in ketosis, the body will burn adipose stores for fuel. Unless you are literally stage lean, the body won't have enough time to burn stored adipose before it starts to shift toward lean tissue.But have you tried chocolate milkshakes? I prefer the Breyers for the higher fat content. Between starving on water and electrolytes vs washing your tacos down with a chocolate milkshake you are 10000% doing better with the tacos and milkshake every time.
You just lost 72 hours of potential gains and now need time to replenish before you can even think about gaining you are a full week behindI have no idea what you are talking about here, the guy asked about water fasting. The amount of muscle tissue lost during a 72-hour water fast is next to nothing if anything. That said that tiessue would come back immediately. It takes about the first 24 hours or a bit less to fully deplete all glycogen stores, so you are not losing any tissue in that window, then once in ketosis, the body will burn adipose stores for fuel. Unless you are literally stage lean, the body won't have enough time to burn stored adipose before it starts to shift toward lean tissue.
In an ideal scenario, the individual would get into ketosis ahead of the fast and start the 72+ hour fast already in ketosis. this would attenuate some of the negative side effects of the fast.