Tren and Muscle gain

[Jizzmo]

after talking to a couple gym bros ive come to conclusion that if your an ecto you will really need a shit load of cals to gain weight on tren. if your endo its not nearly as hard

i usually gain weight easily but i noticed that i have to go way above 5000 calories a day on tren, otherwise i dont gain any weight... 420mg tren 210mg test a week and some peptides. good thing i love eating so thats not hard at all for me :spam::headbang:

 

[Deleted member 106824]

tren's good and all, but after your cycles. how much do you keep? ive found even with my trt, i still lose alot of what ive gained after a month.

Interesting question, I'd like to see people's responses as well.

Do you tend to lose size, strength or both off tren? For me it seems strength is a little easier to keep off cycle then size although thats with very limited experience and not with tren.

 

[Adonis89]

I used to always use tren when leaning down, so I had no personal experience using it in a calorie surplus (or maintenance) until recently. I've found that tren really shines (for me at least) on a calorie surplus. It absolutely keeps fat loss to a minimum. Also, I can pound the carbs and lean out while growing with tren. If i over eat carbs on tren I just heat up. If you use GH and tren in a calorie surplus I can't see how fat gain would be anything but negligible assuming you start lean on a clean low fat, high carb/adequate protein diet. Tren works best when you're already lean - as with almost any other drug that we use (IMO)