Why I don't come on anymore

[Cortisol]

I'm just an average joe, with limited AAS use/experience. I'll say this though, reading through these threads the past 6 months or so has REALLY changed my mind about "upping the dose". Been OFF for almost a year now. To be honest I look just as good, ok maybe little less muscle/more fat, whatever. I'm healthier now, and do more cardio. To sum it up... I'm proud I woke up after 3 years of using, rather than 30

If you do reasonable doses, you will be fine. At my age 200 mgs/week is safe, and most knowledgeable physicians know this.

At 48 my body stopped making test (natural for 5 years) and my GH is also low. 1-2 ius of GH and test replacement make me healthier than being "natural". Low test and GH is unhealthy.

Of course I run 350-400 test/week and no TRT docs go that high AFAIK. I could not recover from my training regimen otherwise.

Like I said, competitive b being is about winning. What makes it simultaneously wonderful and dangerous is the risks guys take for willing.

I respect them for challenging death. MMA is less dangerous.

What is REALLY BAD is the kids running gear, high amounts and they do not even train hard, and if they train hard have not trained long enough.

The rule was always 12 weeks on=12 weeks off, with a proper pct.

 

[devenidas]

What is snunk and ibiza? Are those typo"s or am i getting old and i dont know whats out there? It sounds like those might be bad for you

No mate no typo..

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Skunk is cannabis sprayed with some chemical shit to make it stronger. U feel different if u just smoke normal weed compare to snunk . it's different in terms of being more dangerous and has really bad sides if used long term .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibiza

Is a Iceland in Europe and very popular with UK youngsters to go and get on the party scene . drugs of all sorts sex and those kind of wild stuff . this is just one of the place out of good few party scene places in Europe. Alcohol, drugs and stuff are very cheap over their and in abundance their so kids can afford it. Not good. Nothing wrong with going to a party scene and have a bit of fun but many youngsters do silly stuff and harm themselves and BBC done documentary on it, the party scene and they end up in hospital their like blown a fire kracker out of their ass hole for fun and burned themself lol !!

yup some insane stuff happening around that's just one example.

 

[Bionic]

No mate no typo..

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Skunk is cannabis sprayed with some chemical shit to make it stronger. U feel different if u just smoke normal weed compare to snunk . it's different in terms of being more dangerous and has really bad sides if used long term .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibiza

Is a Iceland in Europe and very popular with UK youngsters to go and get on the party scene . drugs of all sorts sex and those kind of wild stuff . this is just one of the place out of good few party scene places in Europe. Alcohol, drugs and stuff are very cheap over their and in abundance their so kids can afford it. Not good. Nothing wrong with going to a party scene and have a bit of fun but many youngsters do silly stuff and harm themselves and BBC done documentary on it, the party scene and they end up in hospital their like blown a fire kracker out of their ass hole for fun and burned themself lol !!

yup some insane stuff happening around that's just one example.

lol

 

[maldorf]

Hi Maldorf I agree with all you have said here sir. If I may add something which is what the news article not pointed out and just blaming steroids this fella was HEAVILY into recreational drugs rave drugs party scene and stuff. I am from UK and I know when this was reported at the time and I have seen his face book page pictures etc as it was all over social media here and some other news sources and his close friends reported this he was indeed doing the drugs but also doing big time all the party drugs ecstasy and what not ( I have never touched any recreational drugs except little weed and snunk here and there occassionally in my younger years , nothing now for years) but he did do hard party on this stuff going on holidays regularly like Ibiza etc etc and even here in UK and drinking alcohol too. So I would to think that played a huge part as well in on top of anabolic steroids especially they are hard on the heart , blood pressure , cns and stuff

Good, I am glad you brought that up because it was a question myself was wondering. I figured that there had to be more at play here than just steroids to have died so young and had multiple strokes and heart attacks. His death was undoubtedly brought on by the huge cocktail of drugs he was pumping into his system, including the steroids. I am curious if he was using the rec drugs after his heart attacks/stroke occurred and toward the end when he died.

 

[Elvia1023]

Alcohol, drugs and stuff are very cheap over their and in abundance their so kids can afford it.

Please tell me where you can get these things for cheap in Ibiza I was paying $30 for 1 drink in every club in Ibiza. In all seriousness this is more Sunny Beach in Bulgaria and well lots of other destinations full of teenagers from the UK. You can pay $5 for 10 shots and $1 for a drink over there. Ibiza is a bit different. Although it was in the news today how a 20 year old girl died of heart failure due to possible overdosing of ectasy. That will be wrong imo as quite frankly there is alsorts of stuff in tablets in Ibiza. But it does show you just what is going on and how some people are in such a fragile state that their bodies can't cope with certain things.

I am the first to state how abuse is to blame for all this recent deaths. Some guys are still in denial but it is obvious to see. However I think the use of rec drugs, painkillers, uppers and other stimulants play a massive role too. Even when guys die that we know used massive amounts of rec drugs guys still say oh it will be the steroids though. I have never been addicted to anything but it is fairly obvious from this forum and chats in private just how many bodybuilders are addicted to hard drugs. How many guys eat painkillers in order to train hard. Take uppers to get things done. Take downers as they can never sleep. There are guys on here taking 5-10 drugs just to get to sleep.

All I am trying to say is abuse comes in many forms and it's not always the steroids. Plus a lot of guys take other drugs especially the younger ones. There was a big guy (mate of a mate) who have a heart attack recently (very young) and he was abusing gear. That is obviously not good and puts you at risk. Although I am sure if it was just that he was doing he would have been ok for a long time. But he then took loads of coke (regular thing) and finished the night with a viagra and had a heart attack and now one side of his body is paralysed. The thick blood and all the stimulants etc... your heart won't know what to do.

 

[iflexit_1]

How many guys you know compete at say an Olympic level of anything.
Most of those sports only contain genetic freaks at that level its no different.

I agree. And your point?

 

[devenidas]

Good, I am glad you brought that up because it was a question myself was wondering. I figured that there had to be more at play here than just steroids to have died so young and had multiple strokes and heart attacks. His death was undoubtedly brought on by the huge cocktail of drugs he was pumping into his system, including the steroids. I am curious if he was using the rec drugs after his heart attacks/stroke occurred and toward the end when he died.

Mate very sorry I was going to reply to this but forgot! To be totally honest with you I couldn't tell you with 100 percent surety if he still used the rec drugs after his heart attack / stroke but it was said he was defo using gear to get bigger again and he did somewhat think he was unbreakable sort of thing. It didn't make him change his perspective towards the value of life . So who knows maybe he did push on the rec stuff. He was clearly told NOT to use any sort of drugs. Very sad and painful for the family left behind. They are the ones who have to bear the grief for the rest of their lives .

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