Friends please be careful...

[luki7788]

Surprised people now days view 700mg as a high dosage..I remember on the gh 15 forums lol...many were taking 1g, 1400mg, even 2100 or 3cc Ed. Looking back, insane. I think my last run was 200 prop 200 tren, if I run it again will probably be 20mg Ed or 140ew. Seems like with all the trt clinics popping up the trends are people using less AAS than the old days at least my observations on various forums.

In pro ranks still dosages 100-150mg day are very common - there are those who can use up to 200 or even 300mg a day of trenbolone ace

 

[cage99]

In pro ranks still dosages 100-150mg day are very common - there are those who can use up to 200 or even 300mg a day of trenbolone ace

Wow, possibly over 2g of Trace… Man, the carbs you’d need to consume to not be flat would be through the roof! 1500-1800g/day carbs daily??

Ya do what ya gotta do when ya wantin to wear the big boy pants, right!

Cage

 

[SouthernMuscle]

Yeah, I asked what those supplments consisted of out if curiosity

Ohhhh, my bad

 

[luki7788]

Wow, possibly over 2g of Trace… Man, the carbs you’d need to consume to not be flat would be through the roof! 1500-1800g/day carbs daily??

Ya do what ya gotta do when ya wantin to wear the big boy pants, right!

Cage

I have no idea why people determine their diet based on the amount and type of drugs someone uses - it doesn't work like that

 

[aHarness]

I have no idea why people determine their diet based on the amount and type of drugs someone uses - it doesn't work like that

Yeah I’m confused lol. Is he saying he’d need 2000g of carbs just based of the tren dose?

 

[aHarness]

Ohhhh, my bad

All good, I don’t expect to hear back on it lol.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

All good, I don’t expect to hear back on it lol.

I dont get it, bp drugs are dirt cheap. Although i’ll admit i didn’t get with the program till mid 30’s myself

 

[bbxtreme]

I dont get it, bp drugs are dirt cheap. Although i’ll admit i didn’t get with the program till mid 30’s myself

Guys will inject themselves with grams of gear, but they think a BP med or beta blocker will cause long term health issues. Hear it all the time- “I don’t want to take a BP med, it will hurt my kidneys.” Or “a beta blocker will hurt my workouts and zap my energy.”

Fast forward years later they have kidney issues bc they didn’t take BP meds while on grams of gear.

It’s a lack of education, Dr. Google and just pure stupidity IMO.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

Guys will inject themselves with grams of gear, but they think a BP med or beta blocker will cause long term health issues. Hear it all the time- “I don’t want to take a BP med, it will hurt my kidneys.” Or “a beta blocker will hurt my workouts and zap my energy.”

Fast forward years later they have kidney issues bc they didn’t take BP meds while on grams of gear.

It’s a lack of education, Dr. Google and just pure stupidity IMO.

if someone is on this forum with any regularity, there’s no excuse.
This topic and many others get beat to death routinely

 

[LATS]

My biggest pet peeve is those who say they have elevated bp and have for years.. combined with intense workouts and even pre workouts etc.. and do nothing.. they actually think taking cialis is going to make much difference.. for Pete sake get to a Dr and get some meds.. I take benicar.. costs me 10 bucks a month.. so you'll spend 30 to 50 bucks on test a month but not bp meds..? Bp combined with intense training and other Stimulants is frying your kidneys increasing your risk in all cardiovascular risks.. and no, a aspirin and cialis ain't cutting it id bet.

 

[Doitagain]

if someone is on this forum with any regularity, there’s no excuse.
This topic and many others get beat to death routinely

The number of people (I personally know) who abuse/misure PEDs for ages and never checked their BP even once in their life is simply mind-boggling. Same goes for blood tests.
You know what I find absolutely shocking?
That A LOT more people don't drop dead everyday.

 

[primobolan]

Apologies if showing my ignorance here but can we medicate our BP, carry a ton of muscle, eat copious of protein and stay hydrated and still end up with secondary FSGS. My BP is always in range but I have watched my eGFR slowly over the years drop.

 

[Oldwhitedude]

Apologies if showing my ignorance here but can we medicate our BP, carry a ton of muscle, eat copious of protein and stay hydrated and still end up with secondary FSGS. My BP is always in range but I have watched my eGFR slowly over the years drop.

It's likely worth doing a more thorough test like Cystatin-C or even an actual kidney scan, to check for function, weight and damage.

eGFR can be skewed by protein intake, muscle mass and recent training. We're all effected by those around the clock.

 

[primobolan]

It's likely worth doing a more thorough test like Cystatin-C or even an actual kidney scan, to check for function, weight and damage.

eGFR can be skewed by protein intake, muscle mass and recent training. We're all effected by those around the clock.

Cystatin-C has me in the 70's, regular bloodwork has me in the 60's.

 

[pistonpump]

Cystatin-C has me in the 70's, regular bloodwork has me in the 60's.

What company and dosages have you been doing ? I think age plays a part in this also and time on

 

[aHarness]

Cystatin-C has me in the 70's, regular bloodwork has me in the 60's.

Do you use astragalus?

3-4g a day has kept my GFR steady over the years. An essential in my opinion for anyone on PEDs.

 

[primobolan]

What company and dosages have you been doing ? I think age plays a part in this also and time on

Marek. 50 years old. My highest dosage years ago was around 2g per week. I have been hitting it for 30years so I would assume time is working against me.

 

[primobolan]

Do you use astragalus?

3-4g a day has kept my GFR steady over the years. An essential in my opinion for anyone on PEDs.

Just started about a month ago. I do bloodwork in a month or two to see how much my numbers moved. I spoke directly with a nephrologist and she did not seem concerned but she did not know my ped history.

 

[pistonpump]

Marek. 50 years old. My highest dosage years ago was around 2g per week. I have been hitting it for 30years so I would assume time is working against me.

I meant compounds sorry

 

[primobolan]

I meant compounds sorry

Now that I am old just test, primo, deca, gh. My blood pressure has always been in range despite my bodyweight and usage but as I read about secondary FSGS I wonder if you can just wear your glomeruli out over time just being big and the factors involved with no high blood pressure.