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I just went out of my way to go grab a few huge bottles of vitamin shoppe astragalus because it was unavailable to ship and only 3 left at the store

Also grabbed some olive leaf extract which i’m pretty sure was part of the immune stack he recommends
Olive leaf, citrus bergamot and astragalus.

I like Naeomi brand Citrus Bergamot as it’s Italian sourced and has the olive leaf in it. You can buy it on special usually on Amazon.

Ps. I have NO affiliation with any of these items or supplements. But I do drink the hell out of TRUE Nutrition protein. Guilty as charged. 🤣
 
God Speed!! Drop the Tren forever and if you do continue any type of compounds after healing…Low and slow brother and you will enjoy health for a very long time.
 
Has there been any considerations of venturing down the paths related to autoimmune nephropathies?

Could be worth mentioning to either your primary or nephrologist.
 
Geez @DOGGCRAPP , I didn't know that about John's parents. Explains a lot why he had the heart problems.

Now, please do not speculate about others or post rumors here. We are a fact based board. Your opinions are valuable, but be careful of accusations without substantial proof. Other boards post gossip, I don't want it here.

@Type-IIx , I think you are a very intelligent guy, but once in awhile, your posts take jabs at people. Like you got a short fuse at times. I think you are best at breaking down things scientifically, but not so much addressing others. You are one of the guys I actually read your posts.

I always tell me people book knowledge and common sense are not the same. Let's all take a deep breath and think before we post and get defensive at others.

None of us MODS, believe or not, want to ban anyone. We simply want people to respect others.
I thought i remembered John telling me his biological dad had a heart attack at 32-33 and his biological mother had a heart attack at 34-35....I know it was in their 30's dont hold me to those numbers.

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I thought i remembered John telling me his biological dad had a heart attack at 32-33 and his biological mother had a heart attack at 34-35....I know it was in their 30's dont hold me to those numbers.

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That's correct, he talked about it at one of the Elite FTS strength seminars as well.
 
I thought i remembered John telling me his biological dad had a heart attack at 32-33 and his biological mother had a heart attack at 34-35....I know it was in their 30's dont hold me to those numbers.

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He had the odds against since birth then. Genetics were against him. Poor guy, he was very likeable. I still watch his videos.

By the way, good to see here. I do however follow you on Instagram. I just started back at the DC program. Taking it slow at one bodypart per week split over 4 days. My mind wants to go faster then my body sometimes.
 
Dude what in all fucking hell are you talking about?! I cant stand when people talk so matter of factly out of their asses, and you have NO freaking idea what the hell you are talking about point blank!

You refer to a thread of me talking about John Meadows death and you make no sense at all. The only thing i can see is you must be wildly confused about this statement in that thread:

"I just wanted to share my thoughts if I may. John and i go back about 15 years. (As you guys probably know I make most of his supplements) and we have just talked alot and texted over the last decade and a half."

In your wildly uninformed opinion do you know what that means above when i say "i make most of his supplements"? I own a manufacturing plant with 63 employees working around the clock 24/7/365.. John Meadows owned Granite Supplements along with his partners Jai and Dev. I make alot of Granite Supplements for them along with a bunch of other companies I make supplements for. The stuff they sell to the public like protein powders and such. I make Peri-Md which was his formula and quarterly send checks to Johns wife Mary.

So what in all hell are you going on about? John Meadows sent me his bloodwork repeatedly for me to take a look at. By and large it looked pretty darn good most of the time. He was under the care of Dr Serranno and cardiologists. End of story. What in all hell do i have to do with Johns death?! His biological father had heart attack at 33, I believe his biological mother had heart attack at 35 if I remember right. He was also vaccinated with the Johnson and Johnson Vax I believe....theres some actual facts for you to make a much better informed decisions to the shite your peddling. Thats it...I made/make alot of his supps and still send his wife checks, thats about the end of my involvement in everything. Ask Serranno or his cardiologists what happened. End of story. Dont you feel stupid now? You should to even suggest such a thing.

Conflict of interest? LOL. So you say I profit from the sale of nutritional supplements and its all about my sales interests? Anyone want to inform this guy whats up? Virtually 99% if not more of the supplements I ever recommended to people on this board or anyone I DONT EVEN SELL! Astragalus (Vitamin shoppe), Citrus Bergamot (Jarrow), just keep going down the line of what I have told people to use to fix bloodwork problems and I dont even sell the stuff. So if you want to chastise me for bringing Astragalus and Citrus Bergamot and other supplements to the attention of the bodybuilding community so Vitamin Shoppe and Jarrow can make money...Guilty as charged! I dont know anyone who works for those companies and I have never made a dime from suggesting those supps or other health supps i have recommended.

If i had a 10 dollar bill for the number of people that told me astragalus brought them back into scope from high creatinine levels I could probably retire. If i had a 10 dollar bill for the number of people who said citrus bergamot and a lot of the other supps I recommended to them brought them back into scope fully lipids wise....I could not even count. if someone wants to go the drug route and fix their kidney problems with drugs that bring on ketoacidosis in some people instead of a supplement that has repeatedly been shown to raise gfr and lower creatinine and has some properties that increases telomerase, go right ahead. If someone wants to use drugs like statins and deal with some of the side effects of those over a supplement that has shown some of the same statin like benefits to it....go right ahead.

The study up above (kind of sketchy out of Thailand with a person that has thrown about some other sketchy studies) is the FIRST one ever reported showing detrimental effects of cordyceps sinensis toward kidneys. Virtually ever other study ever reported states the exact opposite. Every study before that one study and every after that study https://www.google.com/search?q=cordyceps+kidney+pubmed&sca_esv=597108281&source=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:5/31/2022,cd_max:1/9/2024&tbm=#ip=1
I dont sell cordyceps sinensis. Nootropics Depot sells a legitimate brand. So if you want to chastise me for helping that company out when i dont know one person over there.....again guilty as charged.

Ever have people come to you asking for your help (desperate) because they were told by doctors that kidney dialysis was inevitable and its just a time march until they are hooked up to a machine? I have. Many many bodybuilders, especially the last 6 years or so. And to the best of my ability I have tried to help them, because what else do they have but "the inevitable" according to their specialists. I have brought every single one of them back into range except 2, those two were too far gone, with GFR of 16 and 8 respectively and creatinine so high there was no coming back, the damage was too extensive and one simply kept doing the same things that got him into kidney failure in the first place. Most of that was with Astragalus which i rate highly and i have only recommended Cordyceps Sinensis as an afterthought to many.

You know what i do when i dont know the details and ins and outs of a scenario like the bullshit you said above about John Meadows? I keep my mouth shut so i dont look like a jackass stating something that is totally untrue. But hey thats me, and how i go about things.
Yes, I'm sorry Dante.

I went back and read more closely the thread I referred to, and it wasn't the same impression I had; what you said was totally & completely benign. I don't know what I was thinking the first time.

Sorry for pulling you into this for no reason! It wasn't the intent of that post, I was making a larger point that's been totally swallowed up by the arguing.

Have to be more discerning in what I write sometimes.

I was wrong bro, not the first time nor will it be the last. Love everything you've done for us.
 
Geez @DOGGCRAPP , I didn't know that about John's parents. Explains a lot why he had the heart problems.

Now, please do not speculate about others or post rumors here. We are a fact based board. Your opinions are valuable, but be careful of accusations without substantial proof. Other boards post gossip, I don't want it here.

@Type-IIx , I think you are a very intelligent guy, but once in awhile, your posts take jabs at people. Like you got a short fuse at times. I think you are best at breaking down things scientifically, but not so much addressing others. You are one of the guys I actually read your posts.

I always tell me people book knowledge and common sense are not the same. Let's all take a deep breath and think before we post and get defensive at others.

None of us MODS, believe or not, want to ban anyone. We simply want people to respect others.
I try to work on my tact & be more discerning when I post but sometimes I do cause offense when it's not what I intend at all.

It's also really difficult on this board where people are especially reactive and hone in on some aspect of a larger point and totally ignore the crux of the post. That post was not designed to cast aspersions to any reasonable reader, it was an off-the-cuff remark that wasn't thought out well with respect to ramifications, nor even based on a close reading, it was based on my initial impression that turned out to be simply wrong. I was making a broad point, and instead of taking it for what it was, people use it to create conflict. There is an overrepresentation of personality disorders, including borderline, histrionic, and antisocial [1], in the AAS-using population, and sometimes they make themselves known.

Piacentino D, Kotzalidis GD, Del Casale A, Aromatario MR, Pomara C, Girardi P, Sani G. Anabolic-androgenic steroid use and psychopathology in athletes. A systematic review. Curr Neuropharmacol. 2015 Jan;13(1):101-21. doi: 10.2174/1570159X13666141210222725. PMID: 26074746; PMCID: PMC4462035.
 
Yes, I'm sorry Dante.

I went back and read more closely the thread I referred to, and it wasn't the same impression I had; what you said was totally & completely benign. I don't know what I was thinking the first time.

Sorry for pulling you into this for no reason! It wasn't the intent of that post, I was making a larger point that's been totally swallowed up by the arguing.

Have to be more discerning in what I write sometimes.

I was wrong bro, not the first time nor will it be the last. Love everything you've done for us.
I appreciate that response and I respect it. Thank you.
 
Thank you very much. I already have the
TUDCA, but not the others so I will add them.
I would take this very seriously man 10,000mg a day spillage is fucking *high*. I wouldn’t be surprised if your biopsy shows a decent amount of scarring. If you’re smart and make changes you can have a decent quality of life and improve your situation quite a bit. I was spilling 17,000mg a day when I was diagnosed with c3g disease back in 2020. My biopsy showed ~65% scarring and 40-50% TA/IF aka I was fucked. My nephrologists had a very poor prognosis for me but I ignored that and dug into fixing and healing and now three years later my spillage is 300-500mg and my gfr is back over 100 (it was 40).

Do not take tren don’t run shit be smart make life adjustments and depending on your biopsy results respond accordingly. If you don’t make the changes necessary and take it necessary you will end up on dialysis and with a horrific quality of life. I’ve seen it many times.
 
Question; in this scenario if someone is having that excess thirst would you recommend perhaps upping sodium or just trying to resist drinking more? Lol
Guys definitely totally hyperfocus, myopically, on sodium. Sodium is an important electrolyte, but not the only one.

Ca is essential for muscle contraction, not only of striated skeletal muscle, but smooth cardiac muscle (i.e., the heart). Electrolytes are essential for nervous function, including neuromuscular performance (strength).

The essential electrolytes are:

1. Na: sodium
2. Cl: chloride
* these 2 are replaced by table salt, NaCl

3. K: potassium
4. Ca: calcium
5. Mg: magnesium — all predominantly involved in muscle contraction, but also
6. P: phosphorus
7. Bicarbonate (HCO₃)
* these 5 are not replaced by table salt, and obviously not by water alone.

Besides these being electrolytes that are required from ingestion (from the diet, as micronutrients, which include water despite over-corrections by "IIFYM" enthusiasts that deride micronutrients as "pseudoscience," in fact, water is fairly essential)...

You just shouldn't strain the kidneys unnecessarily by drinking excessive fluids.

So, to answer your question, "more sodium" is definitely not sufficient to overcome hyponatremia, and avoiding it by not drinking to excess is a better solution.
 
I would take this very seriously man 10,000mg a day spillage is fucking *high*. I wouldn’t be surprised if your biopsy shows a decent amount of scarring. If you’re smart and make changes you can have a decent quality of life and improve your situation quite a bit. I was spilling 17,000mg a day when I was diagnosed with c3g disease back in 2020. My biopsy showed ~65% scarring and 40-50% TA/IF aka I was fucked. My nephrologists had a very poor prognosis for me but I ignored that and dug into fixing and healing and now three years later my spillage is 300-500mg and my gfr is back over 100 (it was 40).

Do not take tren don’t run shit be smart make life adjustments and depending on your biopsy results respond accordingly. If you don’t make the changes necessary and take it necessary you will end up on dialysis and with a horrific quality of life. I’ve seen it many times.
That's a great outcome, taking your GFR from 40 back to >100 is impressive. What adjustments/supplements etc did you make - that would be some useful knowledge to share with the board
 
Update:
I finally had my kidney biopsy and it went OK. They had to poke my kidney twice with a 15 gauge needle. I was awake the whole time but numb, recovery is going good. I did bleed out a bit so I had to be kept in the hospital longer than expected. Then had some strange blood pressure and heart rate issues, so had to stay even longer. I’ll update shortly with what the kidney doctor advises.
 
You ve some great supps for organ support from Supplement Needs with "Heart Stack" and " "Kidney+".
 
So u think it was tren or BP, ever since I’ve had my son now almost 2 and another in a month my BP a month ago when I was sick was 138/76 which freaked me a little. The machine said 155/100 and the nurse was like ehhhh I spazzed out and the doc took it manually for the first numbers something about the cuff being too small. That said pre kids & pre 40s I was always 105-110/60 RHR in 60s or lower now it’s in 70s. You think these “normal” (higher) new numbers are bad bc I have 20 years of much lower numbers or just part of life?
 
I would take this very seriously man 10,000mg a day spillage is fucking *high*. I wouldn’t be surprised if your biopsy shows a decent amount of scarring. If you’re smart and make changes you can have a decent quality of life and improve your situation quite a bit. I was spilling 17,000mg a day when I was diagnosed with c3g disease back in 2020. My biopsy showed ~65% scarring and 40-50% TA/IF aka I was fucked. My nephrologists had a very poor prognosis for me but I ignored that and dug into fixing and healing and now three years later my spillage is 300-500mg and my gfr is back over 100 (it was 40).

Do not take tren don’t run shit be smart make life adjustments and depending on your biopsy results respond accordingly. If you don’t make the changes necessary and take it necessary you will end up on dialysis and with a horrific quality of life. I’ve seen it many times.
That's amazing man. Can you please update us with what you did for your recovery?

I had a similar story but not as severe.

A few years of tren/dbol abuse without caring about my diet and monitoring BP. Finally saw my EGFR dropping rapidly and scared the piss outta me. Also did follow up blood work and urinalaysis that showed I was spilling 2-3 grams of protein per day I believe it was.

Started telmesartan , astragalus, beet root, and a few other supplements that I don't recall of the top of my head. Anyways once my blood pressure and diet got sorted out the protein in my urine disappeared and all was good.
 
So u think it was tren or BP, ever since I’ve had my son now almost 2 and another in a month my BP a month ago when I was sick was 138/76 which freaked me a little. The machine said 155/100 and the nurse was like ehhhh I spazzed out and the doc took it manually for the first numbers something about the cuff being too small. That said pre kids & pre 40s I was always 105-110/60 RHR in 60s or lower now it’s in 70s. You think these “normal” (higher) new numbers are bad bc I have 20 years of much lower numbers or just part of life?
Blood pressure through the ‘ages’.
 

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Try having a blood pressure of 150/90 rhr 97. While having lounged around for an hour in the morning. Rhr is usually in the upper 70s- 80s and I'm not a big guy. My dr, who I will see today, seems unphased by it but I have a host of issues. I think they all stem from hyperthyroidism and chronic dehydration but it's been going on for years and now 35lbs lighter, my BP is higher. I need a good fucking dr!
 
Try having a blood pressure of 150/90 rhr 97. While having lounged around for an hour in the morning. Rhr is usually in the upper 70s- 80s and I'm not a big guy. My dr, who I will see today, seems unphased by it but I have a host of issues. I think they all stem from hyperthyroidism and chronic dehydration but it's been going on for years and now 35lbs lighter, my BP is higher. I need a good fucking dr!
Damn! Why chronic dehydration I assume you r drinking plenty
 

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