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A specific experiment that I want to finish. I found out by accident that removing test completely from a stack, and maintaining e2 at the level with intramuscular estradiol, to the same level it otherwise would be with an aromatized test base, caused SHBG to rapidly increase back up to like natty levels, or the same levels a guy who never blasts would have. While on blast doses, usually SHBG is below 10 or so. So this thing I found by accident lets me experiment with seeing how I grow/feel at different levels of SHBG while still blasting at the same dose.Why are you avoiding Test?
I got the idea originally from Vigorous Steve and Leo, they anecdotally noticed they would have clients who could over do proviron, and they’d get awesome libido and growth that lasted like 2-3 weeks, but then the libido effect drops off and goes below baseline according to them and their clients.
There has also been a pretty newly discovered SHBG receptor, that when bound at the same time as the regular free AR, that it increases the activity of the AR by multiple fold higher when the SHBG receptor is activated at the same time. So the thought is that is SHBG levels drop way to low, this causes a diminished effect of the cycle and part of the reason why growth may stall out over the course of a cycle, and possibly why people even report the best growth in response to their first cycle when their SHBG level is high normal and on the way down.
Then once SHBG bottoms out, on paper, and in a study done on protstate, that the free androgen only was inferior to triggering growth compared to when SHBG Receptor and AR receptor were both activated simultaneously.
So I’ve been experimenting with intentionally crushing my SHBG level for a few months at a time then restoring it for a few months to measure the effect it has on my progress in size strength weight etc