Can you guys please critique my new routine?

[Jake LaMotta]

Phil, can you please take a look at this if you get a chance.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Just my opinion

Just my opinion.........
1. I do not like the choice in exercises
2. I do not agree with the rigidity of rep numbers
3. I do not like that many days off
4. I am not a high volume guy........to answer that......you cant judge someone on number of total sets.........

No workout is easy............each system works..............but what works the best?

 

[maldorf]

Your Routine itself looks good but you need to hit the bodypart more often. You should have an A & B routine and alternate them M-W-F. You are not stimulating the muscle enough to get the growth you are after. Its ok to do low sets but you need to up your frequency. Hitting your arms would be ok once a wk but your larger bodyparts should be hit 2x a wk.

I think he means to do the 3 day rotation 2x in a week so that everything is hit 2x in a week. One day off max before repeating the split. Sometimes you can do 6 days in a row and then a day off if needed. So this workout should be done 3 on and 1 off then repeat. Perhaps even go 6 on 1 off. Perhaps some folks were confused as to the frequency. Doing this routine just 3 days a week really would not do much if that is what people were thinking.

 

[Sesshomaru]

I would caution anyone to respond to this thread. If you guys look up Jake's past posts, hes had an onslaught of surgeries and injuries that can be made worse with some of the suggestions here. Sadly, Jake himself never realizes this and keeps asking the same questions over and over without taking into account his own history.

 

[tenny]

I would caution anyone to respond to this thread. If you guys look up Jake's past posts, hes had an onslaught of surgeries and injuries that can be made worse with some of the suggestions here. Sadly, Jake himself never realizes this and keeps asking the same questions over and over without taking into account his own history.

good point

 

[maldorf]

I would caution anyone to respond to this thread. If you guys look up Jake's past posts, hes had an onslaught of surgeries and injuries that can be made worse with some of the suggestions here. Sadly, Jake himself never realizes this and keeps asking the same questions over and over without taking into account his own history.

Well, he mentioned shoulder surgery but thats all he told us. Sorry to hear he has other problems. I hope that Jake uses common sense here. Trying to build some extra muscle isnt worth taking health risks.

 

[KillerStack]

I would caution anyone to respond to this thread. If you guys look up Jake's past posts, hes had an onslaught of surgeries and injuries that can be made worse with some of the suggestions here. Sadly, Jake himself never realizes this and keeps asking the same questions over and over without taking into account his own history.

I think he has a severe case of OCD (no offense Jake).

Jake, I'm sure you can put together a good program by yourself. Have some confidence. You know your body, your injury history and so on.

 

[Jake LaMotta]

I would caution anyone to respond to this thread. If you guys look up Jake's past posts, hes had an onslaught of surgeries and injuries that can be made worse with some of the suggestions here. Sadly, Jake himself never realizes this and keeps asking the same questions over and over without taking into account his own history.

Sesshomaru, in addition to less days lifting, less exercises done in a workout, less sets, and not going as heavy, I HAVE altered my training since my injury/surgeries. No more behind the neck shoulder pressing, any barbell presses, upright rows, overhead pressing, can't do back squats due to lack of shoulder ROM, more stretching and warming up, etc.

I'm in my third week of this routine and things are going well so I'll stick with it for now.

 

[maldorf]

Why don't you try to help me than?

the routine we set up on here is good if you do it 3 on and then 1 day off, repeat so that you get in 2 workouts a week for each bodypart. If you cannot manage 6 days a week lifting, then youll need to go longer volume for each session and break it up differently.

 

[aeliop]

YES!!!!!!.......FINALLY, someone else is catching on to this guy.

I would caution anyone to respond to this thread. If you guys look up Jake's past posts, hes had an onslaught of surgeries and injuries that can be made worse with some of the suggestions here. Sadly, Jake himself never realizes this and keeps asking the same questions over and over without taking into account his own history.

Yes, I am glad someone else has realized this. I tried to make this point in one of Jake's earlier "cries for help" posts, I think one about what was the best Viagra or something. I think the Jake poster has some mental issues (not saying that to be mean or hateful) I think if you do a search of all of his started threads................here I will do it for you

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1918454

It is quite evident that if he is real he is at the very least a hypochondriac or he is just a button pusher that is trying to post stupid crap over and over that waste the time of members here on the board. (ie Oldlifter,SactoSD, MrCyp,..etc.) I urg everyone here to search the posts of are own "raging bull" Jake Lamotta and tell me this is a normal member with normal motives.

 

[RazorCuts]

People like Jake are all over the place. Always looking for that magic routine or supplement. Going from routine to routine every 2 wks. Its too bad if he does have all these injuries. If you do you know your body best and what you are cable of. You are the best trainer to set up your own routine on what movements and frequency you can endure. If you are feeling good and making progress on what you are doing keep it up. Remember its not so much the workout but the progression and consistency. Good Luck with everything.

 

[Jake LaMotta]

I hate getting into pissing contests on the internet

Yes, I am glad someone else has realized this. I tried to make this point in one of Jake's earlier "cries for help" posts, I think one about what was the best Viagra or something. I think the Jake poster has some mental issues (not saying that to be mean or hateful) I think if you do a search of all of his started threads................here I will do it for you

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1918454

It is quite evident that if he is real he is at the very least a hypochondriac or he is just a button pusher that is trying to post stupid crap over and over that waste the time of members here on the board. (ie Oldlifter,SactoSD, MrCyp,..etc.) I urg everyone here to search the posts of are own "raging bull" Jake Lamotta and tell me this is a normal member with normal motives.

OK, I'm 30 years old and don't usually get into this type of thing but I feel the need to defend myself to aeliop. And Sesshomaru and RazorCuts can learn something from this too but the brunt of this is directed at aeliop.

One, aeliop, you're very disrespectful. That's funny? I thought we were all on this board to help one another. I don't recall ever insulting you on this board.

Two, you have no idea what I've been through in my life the last few years. I won't get into all that (because it's none of your business) but I will get into my surgery history (briefly): I've had 9 surgeries all together (by 4 different docs) since April of 2006. That's right son, you read that right. 9 surgeries all together. 7 shoulder ones, 1 pectoralis one, and 1 hernia one. Even after that, I'm still hitting the weights, hitting the heavy bag, and taking people down when I have to (don't enjoy doing that but it's part of my career...and no I'm not a bouncer). My last doctor said he's never seen a recovery like mine. I made my rehab an OBSESSION. aeliop, do you think you would even be able to TRAIN after having 9 surgeries, let alone step on stage (even with taking HGH)? I think not my friend. And I recovered WITHOUT HGH. Trust me, if you had all the injuries I had, you'd be a "hypochondriac" too.

Three, I did ask about ED drugs. Ask anyone here who has been to a urologist or endocrinologist regarding TRT and they can tell you how clueless they are. I finally met a great doctor who specializes in TRT and guess what? I don't even need ED drugs because I'm on TRT and I'm taking Arimidex to control my high estrogen (which was causing the ED). Now my cock is harder than ever. Now I actually have problems getting hard too often (I'm being dead serious here). Needless to say, I'm never lonely on Friday or Saturday nights.

Four, as far as asking numerous questions about my routine, that's because I'm trying to do things right and not just what I see in Flex magazine like some skinny 17 year old. I'm not just "looking for that magic routine or supplement". For those like Maldorf and a few others who gave helpful suggestions, I appreciate it. I have asked questions in nothing but a respectful manner.

Finally, aeliop, I've seen your videos. You have a great physique and are very strong. No doubting that. Why do you feel the need to knock others when you look like you do and are as strong as you are? No need for that. And before you say something typical like "post a pic", no need for that because I'm admitting you look better. Which reminds me, when I was younger I was an amateur boxer...and before anyone asks, no I wasn't a good boxer, too much partying and women to concentrate on my so-called 'career'. I had talent (my former coaches would tell you that). I regret not taking it more seriously. My career amounted to zero. But that's life. Anyway, some of the older guys who were 'gym rats' (guys who never fought but liked to look like tough guys beating up new young kids in sparring) would aggravate me sometimes. They would get in the ring and spar with new kids (us in the fight game call them 'green') and beat the shit out of them. Instead of working with them and taking it easy (like a mature adult would do), they would tee off on them. The tables turned however when these jerk offs got in the ring with a REAL pro. The pro would beat the holy hell out of them. They sent them packing. They looked like fools and bullies who were than humiliated. I've seen it happen more than once. I've had my ass kicked a lot (and kicked a lot of ass I might add) but whenever I got in the ring with a green kid I NEVER took advantage of them. NEVER.

But that's what you seem to be doing here (in this context). I don't know if your showing off or trying to impress people or not. Whatever the case (and I honestly don't care), it's not necessary and it's childish.

Grow up.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Advice

OK, I'm 30 years old and don't usually get into this type of thing but I feel the need to defend myself to aeliop. And Sesshomaru and RazorCuts can learn something from this too but the brunt of this is directed at aeliop.

One, aeliop, you're very disrespectful. That's funny? I thought we were all on this board to help one another. I don't recall ever insulting you on this board.

Two, you have no idea what I've been through in my life the last few years. I won't get into all that (because it's none of your business) but I will get into my surgery history (briefly): I've had 9 surgeries all together (by 4 different docs) since April of 2006. That's right son, you read that right. 9 surgeries all together. 7 shoulder ones, 1 pectoralis one, and 1 hernia one. Even after that, I'm still hitting the weights, hitting the heavy bag, and taking people down when I have to (don't enjoy doing that but it's part of my career...and no I'm not a bouncer). My last doctor said he's never seen a recovery like mine. I made my rehab an OBSESSION. aeliop, do you think you would even be able to TRAIN after having 9 surgeries, let alone step on stage (even with taking HGH)? I think not my friend. And I recovered WITHOUT HGH. Trust me, if you had all the injuries I had, you'd be a "hypochondriac" too.

Three, I did ask about ED drugs. Ask anyone here who has been to a urologist or endocrinologist regarding TRT and they can tell you how clueless they are. I finally met a great doctor who specializes in TRT and guess what? I don't even need ED drugs because I'm on TRT and I'm taking Arimidex to control my high estrogen (which was causing the ED). Now my cock is harder than ever. Now I actually have problems getting hard too often (I'm being dead serious here). Needless to say, I'm never lonely on Friday or Saturday nights.

Four, as far as asking numerous questions about my routine, that's because I'm trying to do things right and not just what I see in Flex magazine like some skinny 17 year old. I'm not just "looking for that magic routine or supplement". For those like Maldorf and a few others who gave helpful suggestions, I appreciate it. I have asked questions in nothing but a respectful manner.

Finally, aeliop, I've seen your videos. You have a great physique and are very strong. No doubting that. Why do you feel the need to knock others when you look like you do and are as strong as you are? No need for that. And before you say something typical like "post a pic", no need for that because I'm admitting you look better. Which reminds me, when I was younger I was an amateur boxer...and before anyone asks, no I wasn't a good boxer, too much partying and women to concentrate on my so-called 'career'. I had talent (my former coaches would tell you that). I regret not taking it more seriously. My career amounted to zero. But that's life. Anyway, some of the older guys who were 'gym rats' (guys who never fought but liked to look like tough guys beating up new young kids in sparring) would aggravate me sometimes. They would get in the ring and spar with new kids (us in the fight game call them 'green') and beat the shit out of them. Instead of working with them and taking it easy (like a mature adult would do), they would tee off on them. The tables turned however when these jerk offs got in the ring with a REAL pro. The pro would beat the holy hell out of them. They sent them packing. They looked like fools and bullies who were than humiliated. I've seen it happen more than once. I've had my ass kicked a lot (and kicked a lot of ass I might add) but whenever I got in the ring with a green kid I NEVER took advantage of them. NEVER.

But that's what you seem to be doing here (in this context). I don't know if your showing off or trying to impress people or not. Whatever the case (and I honestly don't care), it's not necessary and it's childish.

Grow up.

Do your best man, life aint easy......keep the faith always and good things will happen.

 

[aeliop]

Now that you got that off of your chest.

OK, I'm 30 years old and don't usually get into this type of thing but I feel the need to defend myself to aeliop. And Sesshomaru and RazorCuts can learn something from this too but the brunt of this is directed at aeliop.

One, aeliop, you're very disrespectful. That's funny? I thought we were all on this board to help one another. I don't recall ever insulting you on this board.

Two, you have no idea what I've been through in my life the last few years. I won't get into all that (because it's none of your business) but I will get into my surgery history (briefly): I've had 9 surgeries all together (by 4 different docs) since April of 2006. That's right son, you read that right. 9 surgeries all together. 7 shoulder ones, 1 pectoralis one, and 1 hernia one. Even after that, I'm still hitting the weights, hitting the heavy bag, and taking people down when I have to (don't enjoy doing that but it's part of my career...and no I'm not a bouncer). My last doctor said he's never seen a recovery like mine. I made my rehab an OBSESSION. aeliop, do you think you would even be able to TRAIN after having 9 surgeries, let alone step on stage (even with taking HGH)? I think not my friend. And I recovered WITHOUT HGH. Trust me, if you had all the injuries I had, you'd be a "hypochondriac" too.

Three, I did ask about ED drugs. Ask anyone here who has been to a urologist or endocrinologist regarding TRT and they can tell you how clueless they are. I finally met a great doctor who specializes in TRT and guess what? I don't even need ED drugs because I'm on TRT and I'm taking Arimidex to control my high estrogen (which was causing the ED). Now my cock is harder than ever. Now I actually have problems getting hard too often (I'm being dead serious here). Needless to say, I'm never lonely on Friday or Saturday nights.

Four, as far as asking numerous questions about my routine, that's because I'm trying to do things right and not just what I see in Flex magazine like some skinny 17 year old. I'm not just "looking for that magic routine or supplement". For those like Maldorf and a few others who gave helpful suggestions, I appreciate it. I have asked questions in nothing but a respectful manner.

Finally, aeliop, I've seen your videos. You have a great physique and are very strong. No doubting that. Why do you feel the need to knock others when you look like you do and are as strong as you are? No need for that. And before you say something typical like "post a pic", no need for that because I'm admitting you look better. Which reminds me, when I was younger I was an amateur boxer...and before anyone asks, no I wasn't a good boxer, too much partying and women to concentrate on my so-called 'career'. I had talent (my former coaches would tell you that). I regret not taking it more seriously. My career amounted to zero. But that's life. Anyway, some of the older guys who were 'gym rats' (guys who never fought but liked to look like tough guys beating up new young kids in sparring) would aggravate me sometimes. They would get in the ring and spar with new kids (us in the fight game call them 'green') and beat the shit out of them. Instead of working with them and taking it easy (like a mature adult would do), they would tee off on them. The tables turned however when these jerk offs got in the ring with a REAL pro. The pro would beat the holy hell out of them. They sent them packing. They looked like fools and bullies who were than humiliated. I've seen it happen more than once. I've had my ass kicked a lot (and kicked a lot of ass I might add) but whenever I got in the ring with a green kid I NEVER took advantage of them. NEVER.

But that's what you seem to be doing here (in this context). I don't know if your showing off or trying to impress people or not. Whatever the case (and I honestly don't care), it's not necessary and it's childish.

Grow up.

Well it least you are a real guy. Look Jake my intention was never to disrespect you, pick on you, or bully you. If that is the impression you got then I do apoligize. My honest motive for the post? Well quite frankly your posts annoy the hell out of me. I could write a long account of what an annoying human being you seam to be. I won't though, just like you I don't want to get into a pissing match with you. Out of respect to you I will stay out of your threads from here on out. I will let you continue to search for the answers within the answers.

 

[muscle96ss]

Jake Lamotta and tell me this is a normal member with normal motives.

I have known Jake for a few years now via the internet and have had many hour long conversations on the phone with him as well. I don't know what a "normal" member is because none of our members are normal, me included . However, in terms of motives I can guarantee that his motives are genuine and that he has a good heart. Is he OCD, yes, and I have told him that many times and he is aware of it. He has also had very bad luck and some very bad doctors in the past that have contributed to his problems. He is just trying to get things going again and trying to live a normal life that he has not been able to do for a long time due to injuries. He means no harm or ill will and is just trying to learn but at the same time is perfectionistic and OCD so it can come across a little wierd at times.

 

[aeliop]

okay

I have known Jake for a few years now via the internet and have had many hour long conversations on the phone with him as well. I don't know what a "normal" member is because none of our members are normal, me included . However, in terms of motives I can guarantee that his motives are genuine and that he has a good heart. Is he OCD, yes, and I have told him that many times and he is aware of it. He has also had very bad luck and some very bad doctors in the past that have contributed to his problems. He is just trying to get things going again and trying to live a normal life that he has not been able to do for a long time due to injuries. He means no harm or ill will and is just trying to learn but at the same time is perfectionistic and OCD so it can come across a little wierd at times.

Well at least he is a real guy. Like I said I certainly wasn't trying to pick on him or make light of his situation. I really thought that he had to be fake to get under my skin that bad and to be that damn annoying. I sure he is a good guy and I can handle annoying.

 

[maldorf]

Try out that routine you last posted,go 3 on 1 off. Try that for about 3 months and come back and report to us how youre doing. Better yet, find a good person to train you and give you the real attention you need. If money is an issue, some of us on here dont mind offering advice. Good luck. Just be glad that your health isnt that bad, at least your heart is healthy. YOu dont have it as bad as you think you do. Every day that I lift and run on the treadmill I feel like shit. I get dizzy and suffer an upset stomach no matter how easy I take it. Ive just come to the conclusion that I will have to suffer some. Hell, I cant bend over and tie my shoes without feeling like I have to pass out.

 

[Sesshomaru]

Two, you have no idea what I've been through in my life the last few years. I won't get into all that (because it's none of your business) but I will get into my surgery history (briefly): I've had 9 surgeries all together (by 4 different docs) since April of 2006. That's right son, you read that right. 9 surgeries all together. 7 shoulder ones, 1 pectoralis one, and 1 hernia one. Even after that, I'm still hitting the weights, hitting the heavy bag, and taking people down when I have to (don't enjoy doing that but it's part of my career...and no I'm not a bouncer). My last doctor said he's never seen a recovery like mine. I made my rehab an OBSESSION. aeliop, do you think you would even be able to TRAIN after having 9 surgeries, let alone step on stage (even with taking HGH)? I think not my friend. And I recovered WITHOUT HGH. Trust me, if you had all the injuries I had, you'd be a "hypochondriac" too.

Actually Jake, its not a stretch to believe youve had nine shoulder injuries because you posted about most of them including your pec tear, MRIs, and asking for training help. Repeatedly, youve asked for advice and repeatedly Ive told you to just listen to your PT/Dr for now because very few (if any) members here are qualified to give you advice (esp over the internet) given your injury history You know what you can and cant do, but people who dont know you will give you advice to the contrary because they dont know, or make tweaks that are inappropriate (and which you may not know are appropriate).

The reason why people get annoyed with your posts is because you dont follow this advice and keep posting the same thing over and over, then bump your posts when no one can or should answer them.

Four, as far as asking numerous questions about my routine, that's because I'm trying to do things right and not just what I see in Flex magazine like some skinny 17 year old. I'm not just "looking for that magic routine or supplement". For those like Maldorf and a few others who gave helpful suggestions, I appreciate it. I have asked questions in nothing but a respectful manner

.

Kudos on staying away from the Flex, but work with a PT or Dr. who deals with an athletic population. They would be well more qualified than a trainer or random internet poster. Additionally, youve been doing this routine for 3 wks now, then why the hell are asking about it if 1) its working, and 2) isnt aggravating your injuries?