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Mk-677 and letargic

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Hello guys as per subject when the dosage of mk becomes difficoult to manage as per his letargic effect?
I mean if using a 10-15mg 3-4 hours pre bed the letargic effect will be a problem the next day or doses more consistent gives this letargic effect?
 
I've been using 12.5mg consistently for a couple months, pre-bed. I get a little lethargic in the beginning, but I got past that and it's no longer an issue. I think it was only difficult for a week or so.
 
I've been using 12.5mg consistently for a couple months, pre-bed. I get a little lethargic in the beginning, but I got past that and it's no longer an issue. I think it was only difficult for a week or so.

Have u had good feedback by 12.5 mg?
 
I've been using 12.5mg consistently for a couple months, pre-bed. I get a little lethargic in the beginning, but I got past that and it's no longer an issue. I think it was only difficult for a week or so.

Same here. @12.5 the lethargy is not too bad and after about a week or so it goes away.
 
I started at 7mg for 2 days then 10mg for 5 days. I felt energized at first. I just noticed lethargia the past two days. I'll wait until I adjust to this dose and get past lethargy then slowly up the dose to 25mg. On 10mg the bloat is minimal.
 
I'm in the middle of week 2 at 12.5mg 2-3 hrs pre bed, lethargy and bloat still substantial, was hoping to explore 25mg if the lethargy ever clears
 
A month starting at 7mg working up to 12.5mg never felt any. Added in 1.5iu hgh on Monday, feel like sleeping all the time! Pumps in the gym are painfull tho!
 
It should fade slowly as you get used to it. IGF levels slowly build up causing lethargy, but you get used to it after a while.
 
Mk677, GH and peptide bloat is not just from prolactin. I take .5mg caber 3x per week and had bloods done and my prolactin was <0 yet I will still bloat. I have a feeling it could be progesterone related just like a lot of aas can increase progesterone and unfortunately I haven't heard of any anti progesterones.
 
anybody have any info or data about MK-677 and prolactin or progesterone increase? interested in any feedback from researchers, scientific or personal experience
 
anybody have any info or data about MK-677 and prolactin or progesterone increase? interested in any feedback from researchers, scientific or personal experience

Two-month treatment of obese subjects with the oral growth hormone (GH) secretagogue MK-677 increases GH secretion, fat-free mass, and energy expenditure.
Randomized controlled trial
Svensson J, et al. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1998.
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Abstract
Obesity is associated with blunted GH secretion, unfavorable body composition, and increased cardiovascular mortality. The objective of this study was to investigate the effects of oral treatment with the GH secretagogue MK-677 on GH secretion and body composition in otherwise healthy obese males. The study was randomized, double blind, parallel, and placebo controlled. Twenty-four obese males, aged 18-50 yr, with body mass indexes greater than 30 kg/m2 and waist/hip ratios greater than 0.95, were treated with MK-677 25 mg (n = 12) or placebo (n = 12) daily for 8 weeks. Serum insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) increased approximately 40% with MK-677 treatment (P < 0.001 vs. placebo). Serum IGF-binding protein-3 was also significantly increased (P < or = 0.001 vs. placebo). GH and PRL (peak and area under the curve values) were significantly increased after the initial dose of MK-677. Significant increases, with the exception of peak PRL, persisted at 2 and 8 weeks of treatment. The increases in GH and PRL after the initial dose were significantly greater than the increase seen after multiple doses. Serum and urinary concentrations of cortisol were not increased at 2 and 8 weeks (P = NS, vs. placebo). Fat-free mass increased significantly in the MK-677 treatment group when determined with dual energy x-ray absorptiometry (P < 0.01) or using a four-compartment model (P < 0.05). Total and visceral fat were not significantly changed with active therapy. The basal metabolic rate was significantly increased at 2 weeks of MK-677 treatment (P = 0.01) but not at 8 weeks (P = 0.1). Fasting concentrations of glucose and insulin were unchanged, whereas an oral glucose tolerance test showed impairment of glucose homeostasis at 2 and 8 weeks. We conclude that 2-month treatment with MK-677 in healthy obese males caused a sustained increase in serum levels of GH, IGF-I, and IGF-binding protein-3. The effects on cortisol secretion were transient. Changes in body composition and energy expenditure were of an anabolic nature, with a sustained increase in fat-free mass and a transient increase in basal metabolic rate. Further studies are needed to evaluate whether a higher dose of MK-677 or a more prolonged treatment period can promote a reduction in body fat.
 
thanks JJ
 

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