Yep, I am doing it - except I use HGH instead of the frag. I dose the CJC and GHRP @ 100mcg each and then 2iu HGH 15 min later. Its outlined in Dat's posts at the top of the board.
I was reading thru dats forum (for the hundreth time) and I read on his private forum where people are doing this. I've never read any issues related to danger yet. I dont do anything unless i research the heck out of it minister and I can say that I would add in 2iu of gh with my peps everyday without any concern.
In Dats thread the main concern was about gh being wasted. By this I mean if a guys doing three injections a day at 100mcg of each plus putting gh on top of it and his age. I'm 40 so i could use the protocal you have described and reach my goals alot quicker.
Just my two cents brother
Minister,
I believe the CJC being administered once per week was the "DAC" version which has a half life of days. CJC-1295 w/out DAC or mod grf 1-29 (cjc 1293) has a short half life which is why it is administered three times or more per day.
BEAST
IMO I would say 100% use the GH!!!
It has been said more than enough times, that GH is dose dependant, however it can get expensive. It has also been stated in several posts that people who have used GH with GHRH and GHRP’s that it gives them the feeling and the effect that they are on a much higher dosage of GH.
Now I have not yet had the opportunity to try the GHRH or GHRP, but I have been using GH on and off since 1998. I will say that nothing gives you the quality muscle gains like it.
I will soon be ordering some CJC-1295 (GHRH) and GHRP-6 and combining it with the GH I have at the moment.
I am looking forward to seeing how these two peptides will increase the effect and results of the 2iu of GH that I'm currently using now.
I will update once I get started.
Why are you planning on 1295 which has dac and causes GH bleed?
IMO I would say 100% use the GH!!!
It has been said more than enough times, that GH is dose dependant, however it can get expensive. It has also been stated in several posts that people who have used GH with GHRH and GHRP’s that it gives them the feeling and the effect that they are on a much higher dosage of GH.
Now I have not yet had the opportunity to try the GHRH or GHRP, but I have been using GH on and off since 1998. I will say that nothing gives you the quality muscle gains like it.
I will soon be ordering some CJC-1295 (GHRH) and GHRP-6 and combining it with the GH I have at the moment.
I am looking forward to seeing how these two peptides will increase the effect and results of the 2iu of GH that I'm currently using now.
I will update once I get started.
If you are on GHRPs and CJC 1295 wo DAC...........you should not use GH......I feel it would be counter productive
I'm interested to read Phil's perspective.
My approach has been to dose the peptides, get a gh release going, and add 1-2 units of gh about 20 minutes later. The peptides are used 2-3x per day, but the gh only once, after the am peptides.
My igf-1 has gotten up to the 400-500 area on this, a considerable improvement over peptides alone, it seems, and not bad for 1 unit of gh most days.
Am a huge peptide fan.
That is a very good method. More iu's than that and you will start the negative feedback.
But as to minister, I would not bother with the frag. If you are reaching saturation with the peps then augmenting with an iu or 2 of GH, the extra frag is most likely dollars down the drain.