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[The Scientist]

Hi guy’s

Need some information regarding a clients blood test I requested…

Okay, Male 23 years of age.

Test Result Flag Reference

Somatomedin IGF 110 Low 116 – 358 ng/ml

Haematology

Red Blood count 6.14 High 5.9 x 10
Haemoglobin 18.6 High 13.0 - 18.0
White cell count 7.8 4.0 – 11.0

Insulin Fasting 3.2 2.1 – 10.4 Miu/L

Free T4 13.3 7.2 – 16.4 pmol/L
Free T3 5.9 3.8 – 6.0 pmol/L

Cortisol Random 585 nmol/L

PSA 0.57 0.01 – 2.50 ug/L

Testosteron 1.83 Low 9.9 – 27.8 nmol/L

SHGB 10.3 Low 14.5 – 48.4 nmol/L

Free Testosterone – Calculated 55.1 Low 174 – 729 nmol/L

Biochemistry

Glycated HB 4.6 3.9 – 6.1 %

S-gamma GT 11 5-50 u/L 37 C

Cholestrol 5.5 High 5.0 mnol/L

Cholestrol LDL 4.2 High 3.0 mnol/L

Triglyceride 1.37 1.70 mnol/L

HDL Cholestrol 0.65 Low 1.00 mnol/L

Cholesterol:HDL Ratio 8.5

 

[Jekyll]

What you need to know exactly? He is in really bad shape... coming off a AS cycle?

 

[iprimate]

Need some information regarding a clients blood test I requested…

Okay, Male 23 years of age.

He looks like crap. It looks like he has come off a heavy cycle of AAS without any PCT. He is in a catabolic state, his nuts have gone on holiday and his cortisol is elevated (unless the blood sample was taken early morning). Also, his RBC is high -- which is making his blood viscous -- so he is probably gasping for breath after exerting himself (unless he has excellent cardio-vascular conditioning). Finally his LDLs are elevated, another symptom in the constellation of symptoms produced by heavy AAS use.

 

[The Scientist]

Yes I agree he is in real bad shape and I need to fix him.

Testosterone I can get back to normal with some pregnul and clomid, the cortisol I can inhibit with some Cytadren or Trilostane.

What else would you guy's recommend?

 

[Phidias]

the cortisol I can inhibit with some Cytadren or Trilostane.

I would never mess with Cytadren if I were you/him... the rebound effect after he discontinues its use will be awful... you'll find him with much higher cortisol levels than what they already are.

Instead I'd try to jump start his natural test levels with a basic PCT and have him rest his cns as much as possible... no long and streneous cardio sessions, balanced diet with plenty of EFA's, etc...

Having a HDL low due to AAS is a thing, but his LDL is also quite elevated, which tends to indicate poor dieting habits with lots of saturated/trans fats, sugars, and not enough healthy foods/fibers.

 

[PsyT]

humanofort supposedly inhibits cortisol...and its OTC

 

[Jekyll]

The cortisol is fine... the sample was probably taken in the early morning. Don't use cytadren. Actually, don't use anything but an AI to inhibit hipotalamic aromatization or a SERM like tamox. Diet and proper rest is the key for full recovery. Short workouts, low reps but heavy, no cardio or HIIT for less then 10min. For dieting, I recomend that he cuts on refined carbs and grains. The sources should be greens and some fresh fruits. Only good fats like nuts and olive oil, corresponding to 30%-40% of the caloric intake. Keep the protein high from lean sources. Supplement with some fish oils and zinc.

 

[Thebigone]

I wonder why his IGF would be low at such a young age.

 

[Jekyll]

I would expect just that actually. IGF-1 is not just dependent on GH but also on steroid hormones and low levels can reflect a disruption in the hypothalamus-testis-adrenal axis. It would be interesting to check progesterone and DHEA also. If they are low its a sign of adrenal exhaustion but morning cortisol above 500 excludes it most of the times.

 

[The Scientist]

humanofort supposedly inhibits cortisol...and its OTC

Hey thanks for the great info. Humanofort is something to do with a chicken embro if I'm right? The only product listed here in South Africa that contains it is the Lebrada product. Will Comatose of ALRI do the same for his Cortisol and the fact that he is not sleeping at night?

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Well

Hey thanks for the great info. Humanofort is something to do with a chicken embro if I'm right? The only product listed here in South Africa that contains it is the Lebrada product. Will Comatose of ALRI do the same for his Cortisol and the fact that he is not sleeping at night?

IF he is on tamox that would explain his low IGF level....I would use 3-4 grams vitamin C daily to help lower cortisol a bit

 

[DOGGCRAPP]

That guy is flirting with some danger in my opinion.....by my calculations his hematocrit is right about 56

with HDL that low and especially with his free/total testosterone that low (which would be endothelial protective) and I would imagine his estrogen level (also cardioprotective) is in the tank also......

you want to talk about a guy flirting with a thrombotic event (blood clot)?

There he is.

I hope he isnt on any fat burners or lets himself get terribly dehydrated....because it wouldnt take much.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Yes

That guy is flirting with some danger in my opinion.....by my calculations his hematocrit is right about 56

with HDL that low and especially with his free/total testosterone that low (which would be endothelial protective) and I would imagine his estrogen level (also cardioprotective) is in the tank also......

you want to talk about a guy flirting with a thrombotic event (blood clot)?

There he is.

I hope he isnt on any fat burners or lets himself get terribly dehydrated....because it wouldnt take much.

He should also look into aromasin