Clomid as a stand alone?!

[football101]

So iv been reading some interesting things on clomid and that even as a stand alone it can boost test levels quit a bit. Nothing like steroids will but as a natural bodybuilder currently was something that I found interesting. I realize that gains wouldn't be much. More like a test booster but cheaper and better from what I have read. People have gone from 300 to over 800 from tests done at 25mg for 6 weeks and I understand that everyone is different so that would vary. Just something I found interesting and wanted to see what people thought about this and using it for a standalone to boost test. Obviously to mostly everyone on a board like this it will be nothing but for someone's whos natural and not sure if I want to hope on gear yet was something interesting. Maybe I could squeeze out a little bit of strength and size over time trying this and seeing if I could possibly notice anything. Not really much risk involved... opinions and thoughts are appreciated. More of just a topic of discussion for now no plans to actually run it as a stand alone.

 

[Knight9]

It's true...my friends urologist had him use it to boost his test levels at 33 yrs old.

 

[OutToLunch]

I have been using it for the past few months and it has certainly helped raise my test levels to 700 range from around 300.

 

[little slice]

be ready to cry a lot









about nothing

 

[jaysal555]

I've seen people dose 25mg like you say, but that shit makes me weep like a little girl.

 

[Joenoarms]

I tried clomid with no sides or anything besides my libido going up slightly, however I did find out later I had/have low T (180). It didn't work for my low t I didn't have blood work but I did have the feeling of being dumb as a rock and tired all the time continue while on it. However if you have normal T levels you might get interesting results.

 

[DoWork]

Clomid is very underrated. Muscle are hard as a rock on 200 mgs per day. Decent strength gains too. I think the emotional side effects are overstated. Only negatives for me have been light emotional sides, which are periodic and visual disturbances which are very annoying.

 

[OutToLunch]

Clomid is very underrated. Muscle are hard as a rock on 200 mgs per day. Decent strength gains too. I think the emotional side effects are overstated. Only negatives for me have been light emotional sides, which are periodic and visual disturbances which are very annoying.

Wow. Thats a hefty dosage to say the least ....

 

[Angelsnow]

200 mgs ???? first time i see this dose...

 

[Dezzy]

200mg? That a typo?

 

[Knight9]

A lot of the horrible clomid sides were with doses of 150-300mg daily I believe. Even in PCT, you dont need more than 50mg x 3 weeks or 100mg week 1 and 50mg the next 2.

 

[DoWork]

200 mgs for first five days of pct produced a noticeable result in physique for me. Then dosed 100 mgs for 4 days, then 50 mgs per day for 3 weeks, then 50 mgs 3 x per week for 1 week. Works well for me. Eventual hormonal fluctuations as body reached homeostasis around the 2 month mark. Ran in conjunction with AI protocol

 

[football101]

Yea only be 25 mg for 6-10 weeks im a young guy 24 years old... figured if it raises test by blocking estrogen conversion or whatever then the younger you are the more test you would have essentially. As for the sides that varys and if I notice that and gains arent great then it wouldn't be worth it and Id discontinue. Worth a try though. Id run 25 mg for 6-10 weeks. Are there any supplements to help negate any potential sides as mild as they may be? I have slight gyno as well from puberty don't think that would have any negative effects on me though or can estro bounce higher and cause unbalances if on for to long?

 

[OutToLunch]

Yea only be 25 mg for 6-10 weeks im a young guy 24 years old... figured if it raises test by blocking estrogen conversion or whatever then the younger you are the more test you would have essentially. As for the sides that varys and if I notice that and gains arent great then it wouldn't be worth it and Id discontinue. Worth a try though. Id run 25 mg for 6-10 weeks. Are there any supplements to help negate any potential sides as mild as they may be? I have slight gyno as well from puberty don't think that would have any negative effects on me though or can estro bounce higher and cause unbalances if on for to long?

I take zinc at over 100mg per day. May be worthwhile to also look into DIM and DHEA

 

[InfiniteMuscle]

May as well throw in some HCG too lol

 

[football101]

What benefits would hcg have? I know what its used for but not like clomid would shut me down or id be suppressed after im assuming id just return to normal. Not expecting much but if I can go up 5 pounds in reps for dumbbell presses for example and wouldn't have naturally otherwise probably be something that I could do regularly without resorting to gear and to keep progressing.

 

[heroish]

A friend of mine had low test and managed to boast his levels from 250 to 800 with clomid using a three month run of 25mg per day.

Unfortunately three months after finishing they went to baseline. But he is going to use a couple times a year. He isn't ready for trt and this works for now at raising levels.

 

[j4ever]

A friend of mine had low test and managed to boast his levels from 250 to 800 with clomid using a three month run of 25mg per day.

Unfortunately three months after finishing they went to baseline. But he is going to use a couple times a year. He isn't ready for trt and this works for now at raising levels.

this is what I am doing, I did not check levels while on, but before they were 215, I ran clomid 25mg ed for a few months, came off and waited 8 weeks, got bw again and levels was at 460

 

[football101]

Are there any risks to running clomid at 25mg for longer periods of time? Besides usual and typically reported sides does it effect other actions in the body that can become dangerous if on for extended periods of time? Shorter time periods im sure are fine but just curious if there's anything I should be aware of?

 

[j4ever]

Are there any risks to running clomid at 25mg for longer periods of time? Besides usual and typically reported sides does it effect other actions in the body that can become dangerous if on for extended periods of time? Shorter time periods im sure are fine but just curious if there's anything I should be aware of?

how long you talking about? here is 1 study, many more on pubmed

By the way do you know your test levels?


Clomiphene citrate is safe and effective for long-term management of hypogonadism. - PubMed - NCBI