GH Test/Tren Cycle critque.

[countryboywvu]

Hello all,

Thanks for taking the time to read this and hopefully help me out with a couple questions. Ive been a member here for a while and mostly stay quite and READ READ READ.

Im 180lbs, about 11%bf (educated guess), 5 11 height
Originally i was 145lbs before i started weight training.

Right now I am at a plateau I cant bust through.

Im going to get my diet on track thanks to a couple members on this forums advice. And also improve my training schedule.

They gear I have avaliable is.

250iu Blue top
20cc Test enanth 300mg/ml
30cc Tren ace 100mg/ml
100 clomid
100 20mg nolv
10000 iu HCG

4 Previous cycles
1Test 500mg/ week 2Test-Deca 500/300mg/wk3Test-Tren 500/250/wk 4Test-EQ 500/300mg/wk

My plans are to bulk as much as possible. My dream is to weigh 200-205 with 8% bf and I feel i can reach this goal. I feel like I have reached my genetic limit. My body does not want to grow anymore. I want to Experiment with GH and Test and Tren in 1 cycle because I have the funds available.

My questions are as follows:

How should I Time my aas cycle with The GH cycle?

AAS before after or during GH cycle?

Do i need to Run PCT when i come off AAS if i still have weeks of GH left?

What doses should I run to avoid any major sides. Im pretty tolerant and haven't had any sides that bothered me in the 4 cycles i ran.

Should i run 10iu EOD PW for mass? Or maybe start 2iu EOD then bump up to 10iu EOD gradually.

Thanks,

 

[Snipersteve]

Hello all,

My questions are as follows:

How should I Time my aas cycle with The GH cycle?
wait about 10-12wks before starting AAS

AAS before after or during GH cycle?
get enough gh so that you can run it the above time^ then start cycle and run it at least 6wks after end of AAS cycle(upping my GH dose during PCT helps preserve most of my gains)

Do i need to Run PCT when i come off AAS if i still have weeks of GH left?
yes, run PCT just like you would any other AAS cycle(for me i up my GH to help recover and preserve muscle)

 

[jm425]

You don't have enough gh to run a cycle. My assessment of your situation is that you don't need gh right now. You can use aas solely to break through your plateau. Either your diet or training isn't up to par and needs to be changed.

 

[king1033]

yea personally i didnt touch gear til i broke 205lbs 7% especially at a height of 6 foot. you could of obtained that physique naturally. IMO

 

[countryboywvu]

I dont mean to be rude. Answer the questions I asked please. I'm not you.

 

[pesty4077]

I dont mean to be rude. Answer the questions I asked please. I'm not you.

First tell me how old you are, so I can give an honest answer.

 

[Quad-smack]

If you are under 26 I wouldn't recommend anything other than a sound nutritional approach to your program. For every 100 people that say or think they have their diet nailed - maybe 3 in 100 is correct.
If you are looking for miracles from HGH - you will be disappointed. The AAS you have listed will help you grow much better than HGH will. Notice I said help.

 

[cjjrwe]

I dont mean to be rude. Answer the questions I asked please. I'm not you.

I remember you from another board, you were rude there too, it usually does not help to demand you be answered on this board.

As you have been told, you do not have enough GH to "bulk up". You should be able to put on weight using the test and tren, though it looks like you can run about 10 weeks, which may be short for you, I don't know, I prefer longer cycles but I am also older than you. Get your diet straight and you'll be straight, maybe you should hire someone like Phil to help you out, it would be money well spent.

 

[countryboywvu]

I wasn't being rude. Thanks for all your advice. all my questions are answered.

 

[mace123]

You might want to check out the 6 week protocol. 10 ius EOD is how i would use the growth though.

 

[jm425]

You might want to check out the 6 week protocol. 10 ius EOD is how i would use the growth though.

Bro, to recommend to some guy who's a newb to gh to do that protocol isn't very smart. If you start out at 10ius EOD, your joints would be so swollen and it would hurt to the point you couldn't really do much with your hands.

 

[aznfreak]

agreed with everyone on building as much naturally as you can...build the foundation so you know what you can go back to. too many people hop on shit and don't do all the necessary procedure to get the most out of it: diet, training regimen, supps, etc....to me diet is one of the most important to growth on gear or not...get all that sh$t straight first before you gear or you'll just throw money down the toilet...you're not rude but you're also not open minded...

 

[countryboywvu]

Bro, to recommend to some guy who's a newb to gh to do that protocol isn't very smart. If you start out at 10ius EOD, your joints would be so swollen and it would hurt to the point you couldn't really do much with your hands.

How can u possibly know how ill react to that protocol? I started at 4iu M W F and im gonna bump it up very soon if i dont experience any sides. I read that forum and I am impressed with that way of doing GH using my natty GH between days is so smart. I can see this being the biggest mass cycle I have ever done to break through my plateau.

 

[countryboywvu]

I feel I am pretty open minded dude. How did you come up with that assumption? My protocol is as follows

GH 4iu IM M W F eventually bumping it up to 8iu M W F
Test enath sunday and wednesday 500 mg/wk
Tren ace M W F 225mg/wk

 

[jm425]

How can u possibly know how ill react to that protocol? I started at 4iu M W F and im gonna bump it up very soon if i dont experience any sides. I read that forum and I am impressed with that way of doing GH using my natty GH between days is so smart. I can see this being the biggest mass cycle I have ever done to break through my plateau.

I know because I've done mega doses of gh in the past. The one side effect that holds true for all guys who use gh is that your joints will swell and hurt but will subside after awhile. You just started the gh which IMO is a bad idea, but w/e. That is why you haven't experienced any sides yet. If you honestly think that 4ius of gh eod is going to give you phenomenal gains, you are sadly mistaken.

 

[bigduff]

train hard. stay dedicated to your diet. be willing to listen to people. maybe ill head up that way and train with you so i can check your progress . youll get out of it what you put in it remember that. take it seriously. good luck.

 

[bigduff]

ps. might wanna order more gh

 

[joe4fsu]

 

[king1033]

I know because I've done mega doses of gh in the past. The one side effect that holds true for all guys who use gh is that your joints will swell and hurt but will subside after awhile. You just started the gh which IMO is a bad idea, but w/e. That is why you haven't experienced any sides yet. If you honestly think that 4ius of gh eod is going to give you phenomenal gains, you are sadly mistaken.

jm425, dont bother with this guy he is thick headed and seems to disreguard all the GOOD input that was given to him and went ahead and did what he wanted anyways.

countryboywvu, you go ahead and do what you want..... i have a crystal ball here and it says in 4 weeks your gonna make a post saying... "HELP in soo much pain what do i do".. frankly you just walked on this board hoping you would hear what you wanted but instead you got some REAL input and decided to disreguard.... i guess some of us just like to learn the hard way. Im gonna go out on a limb here and guess you dont get your blood work taken. do yourself a favor dont be stupid get off the gear utilize what you can naturally plataue HARDCORE til you cant grow anymore then if you want to take things to the next level atleast this time you will appreciate it and not flood your body with these compounds because obviously your trying to become this huge monster AND GOING ABOUT IT THE WRONG WAY.

 

[jm425]

jm425, dont bother with this guy he is thick headed and seems to disreguard all the GOOD input that was given to him and went ahead and did what he wanted anyways.

countryboywvu, you go ahead and do what you want..... i have a crystal ball here and it says in 4 weeks your gonna make a post saying... "HELP in soo much pain what do i do".. frankly you just walked on this board hoping you would hear what you wanted but instead you got some REAL input and decided to disreguard.... i guess some of us just like to learn the hard way. Im gonna go out on a limb here and guess you dont get your blood work taken. do yourself a favor dont be stupid get off the gear utilize what you can naturally plataue HARDCORE til you cant grow anymore then if you want to take things to the next level atleast this time you will appreciate it and not flood your body with these compounds because obviously your trying to become this huge monster AND GOING ABOUT IT THE WRONG WAY.

I agree. He seems a bit slow and hardheaded. If he honestly believes his 200ius of gh dosed at 4ius EOD will help him put on muscle, he is kidding himself big time. Just by his pics and stats, I know for a fact that he clearly needs to work on his training and diet and quit relying on supps like he is doing. His lack of knowledge clearly shows in his posts which is fine, but it's sad when he isn't willing to listen to good advice being given to him by many guys on this board.