GHRP-6 Question.

[Chim Chim]

I'm new to the peptides forum, been doing a lot of interesting reading. I noticed a lots of guy say they like to use CJC-1295 and/or GHRP-6 when coming of GH. Have any of you used them to come off a AAS cycle (test and eq for example), instead off a traditional PCT. If so, how well did it work? I appreciate any feedback offered. thanks

 

[dicko53]

I'm new to the peptides forum, been doing a lot of interesting reading. I noticed a lots of guy say they like to use CJC-1295 and/or GHRP-6 when coming of GH. Have any of you used them to come off a AAS cycle (test and eq for example), instead off a traditional PCT. If so, how well did it work? I appreciate any feedback offered. thanks

The peptides will work fine at what they do. They 'won't' replace a PCT.

 

[physicslifter]

I'm new to the peptides forum, been doing a lot of interesting reading. I noticed a lots of guy say they like to use CJC-1295 and/or GHRP-6 when coming of GH. Have any of you used them to come off a AAS cycle (test and eq for example), instead off a traditional PCT. If so, how well did it work? I appreciate any feedback offered. thanks

I used them to compliment a normal pct with Clomid and Nolva. They would not be suitable for replacing a proper pct. I'd say they helped keep me a little more lean than if I hadn't used them, but I am seeing better results with just 2 iu/day (5 on, 2 off) of gh....which is also more cost efffective...

 

[Chim Chim]

Another Question.

First, thanks for your replies. Wouldn't taking GHRP-6 post AAS cycle stimulate your body to produce more testosterone, which would be a good thing post cycle when your shutdown? Isn't growth hormone a "precursor" to testosterone? My physiology may be off a bit here.

 

[Bobaslaw]

First, thanks for your replies. Wouldn't taking GHRP-6 post AAS cycle stimulate your body to produce more testosterone, which would be a good thing post cycle when your shutdown? Isn't growth hormone a "precursor" to testosterone? My physiology may be off a bit here.

No. GH is NOT a precursor to testosterone. Two totally different hormones and synthesis pathways completely.

 

[DatBtrue]

First, thanks for your replies. Wouldn't taking GHRP-6 post AAS cycle stimulate your body to produce more testosterone, which would be a good thing post cycle when your shutdown?

Yes. GHRH actually stimulates a little Luteinizing Hormone release every time it binds to a receptor on a somatotroph. GHRP-6 induces GHRH release so it will have this indirect effect as well.

Even on a steroid cycle where HPTA is suppose to be shutdown the daily (or multiple times per day) inducement of LH release can have an impact on not "feeling" shutdown and help eventual recovery.

This is not a big impact...but it is akin to administering a teeny bit of LH...the result is circulating LH that is so minute that it takes a very sensitive assay to detect it.

But boy does this little bit help.

Isn't growth hormone a "precursor" to testosterone? My physiology may be off a bit here.

Actually a "lot a bit" ...but my friend Bob set you straight.

 

[DatBtrue]

...I am seeing better results with just 2 iu/day (5 on, 2 off) of gh....which is also more cost efffective...

The problem was that you treated your CJC-1295 as if it were CJC-1295 when it was likely modified GRF(1-29).

That means you needed to dose the GRF(1-29) with the GHRP-6 3 times a day which you failed to do.

Then you needed to be at a bodybuilding dose of at least 2mgs of GRF(1-29). You used half of that and you wasted it by dosing it only once a day.

physicslifter: "I'm taking the CJC-1295 at 145 mcg/day right before bed with 150 mcg of GHRP-6. It just worked out easiest this way in terms of dosing for how I mixed it up. I'm also doing 150 mcg of ghrp-6 in the morning and pwo."​

But later in your log you post something that indicates that your peptides were bunk.

physicslifter: The sleep improvement I mentioned above was placebo, it went away the next night.​

But then later in the log you indicate you had side-effects and sadly...oh so horribly sadly you admit your diet was not spot on...sigh (just playing)

physicslifter: Well, I ran the CJC-1295/ghrp-6 for three months at the protocol as outlined above. This was my first time with these compounds, and at first I wasn't too impressed with them, but in retrospect, I think I didn't give them a fair evaluation considering my diet was not the best after I came off the AAS cycle and through PCT, so I'm going to reevaluate what I said....I think the CJC/ghrp combo may have helped keep me from gaining extra fat. I definitely got sides from it, after a few weeks, I was waking up with numb arms and hands. If I ever run it by itself again, I'd like to try it at 2mg/wk, but the stuff is so expensive...​

Anyway...the modified GRF(1-29) shouldn't be expensive if the Chinese would just price the peptides properly...by properly I mean like 29 freaking amino acids made in a peptide synthesizer inexpensively instead of peptides + a chemical compound made outside the synthesizer and then joined together (i.e. peptide + chemical compound) which is expensive and time consuming.

Sigh.

 

[Amu]

Do you think there would be noticeable benefits from running just GRF(1-29) three times a day at 1mcg/kg? i.e. no GHRP-6

 

[DatBtrue]

Do you think there would be noticeable benefits from running just GRF(1-29) three times a day at 1mcg/kg? i.e. no GHRP-6

Sometimes yes sometimes no. If you happen to administer it during a time period when the body is increasing GH naturally (a wave) then there will be very solid additional benefit.

But if you dose it during a trough (meaning no natural GH is being put out) then there will be virtually no benefit.

It would be a crapshoot.

Post #297 in my thread demonstrate this point w/ graphs. Your question is not unique. It has been asked & addressed before. Link: http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showpost.php?p=478969&postcount=297

 

[Chim Chim]

DatBtrue

Thanks for chiming in, I was hoping you would because when it come to peptides your the man. You basically answered my question. The effects of testosterone stimulation, or LH stimulation was by GHRP-6 was my main interest. I have know several guys who have done six weeks of high dose test then quit to drop their natural levels for their doctors visits to get GH presciptions for HRT. I want to know the correlation from GH to test. Thanks again.