Hgh and slin timing

[jamescb77]

You will be fine. The standard hour rule comes from people trying to use gh to lose weight. In this instance you are trying to use gh and slin synergistically to build muscle. I actually prefer this
1 hour preworkout eat 50 carb 50 protein easily digest like fish and rice
45 min preworkout gh and hum r taken together
Intra drink and then post shake 30 min after workout with another meal about 2 hours after that

 

[Evom1]

You will be fine. The standard hour rule comes from people trying to use gh to lose weight. In this instance you are trying to use gh and slin synergistically to build muscle. I actually prefer this
1 hour preworkout eat 50 carb 50 protein easily digest like fish and rice
45 min preworkout gh and hum r taken together
Intra drink and then post shake 30 min after workout with another meal about 2 hours after that

That sounds like a pretty solid plan, I like that idea. I typically do egg whites and rice Pre workout. Timing there I like

 

[Knight9]

Do not worry about gh and carb timing. Carbs don't do anything negative to exogenous gh.

 

[Evom1]

OK thanks. Just head read about long term negative effects on insulin resistance /insulin sensitivity

 

[Evom1]

So here's a question, haven't switched to DC yet so I'm training 5x a week, I can't really swing 10iu 5x a week right now. Would I benefit more from doing 4iu ed, or doing 4iu days I train, except on the more lagging muscle groups do 8iu, and don't take it on rest days? Or what would be the best approach to use let's say 30iu a week

 

[jamescb77]

So here's a question, haven't switched to DC yet so I'm training 5x a week, I can't really swing 10iu 5x a week right now. Would I benefit more from doing 4iu ed, or doing 4iu days I train, except on the more lagging muscle groups do 8iu, and don't take it on rest days? Or what would be the best approach to use let's say 30iu a week

6iu on training days split into 2 doses and peps ran on non training days.

 

[Evom1]

So there's no negative effects from taking gh right around when u take slin and carbs?

 

[saffire]

guys want to ask, my plan was use slin pre-workout, gh after workout, but my qestion is food & shakes timing?

1 hr. before workout solid meal
15min before wo. slin
during workout sip shake (dextrose & some BCAA)
immediately after workout gh
30min post workout solid meal

sounds good guys ?

 

[Abigboy]

thanks for your post. learned from here.

 

[em3rgency]

I follow Mike Arnolds protocol. with 10iu

 

[jfrost89]

I've had good luck with using Chad Nichols protocol
novalin r/humolin r 3xday 2-3 days a week or if I use humolog I go with Mike Arnold's protocol and just do pre workout. Both are very effective as long as your supplementation and nutrition are on point and I agree with knite your way over thinking the gh if it's legit just take it and it'll work, slin is the only thing I worry about carb timing.

 

[SwedishSteel]

Don't waste your growth on shooting it PWO.. the peak only last for 20 minutes. To get the best benefit, shoot it post wo.

You plan sounds good, but if you are going to run that much growth, why not add IGF and get the synergy between the 3?

IGF-HGH-INSULIN, that's what builds monsters.

Post wo
10iu GH
20 mins later - 50-100mcg IGF IM in muscle trained together with
7-10iu slin.

I shoot slin pwo, then gh-igf-slin post wo.

Regards

 

[SwedishSteel]

guys want to ask, my plan was use slin pre-workout, gh after workout, but my qestion is food & shakes timing?

1 hr. before workout solid meal
15min before wo. slin
during workout sip shake (dextrose & some BCAA)
immediately after workout gh
30min post workout solid meal

sounds good guys ?

No it don't.

I WANT to run it like this (bcaa with carbs under the workout)
when the insulin high. But if you drink a shake like that you will blunt
your GH release.

Not that fun to run 10iu of growth and then blunt your release cause
you drink carbs under the workout..

Regards

 

[Knight9]

I've had good luck with using Chad Nichols protocol
novalin r/humolin r 3xday 2-3 days a week or if I use humolog I go with Mike Arnold's protocol and just do pre workout. Both are very effective as long as your supplementation and nutrition are on point and I agree with knite your way over thinking the gh if it's legit just take it and it'll work, slin is the only thing I worry about carb timing.

Mike Arnold prefers humulin r.

Don't waste your growth on shooting it PWO.. the peak only last for 20 minutes. To get the best benefit, shoot it post wo.

You plan sounds good, but if you are going to run that much growth, why not add IGF and get the synergy between the 3?

IGF-HGH-INSULIN, that's what builds monsters.

Post wo
10iu GH
20 mins later - 50-100mcg IGF IM in muscle trained together with
7-10iu slin.

I shoot slin pwo, then gh-igf-slin post wo.

Regards

What are you talking about? Gh peak? Gh takes 4 hrs to metabolize. Shoot it pre. Taking advantage of IGF levels comes from combining and taking advantage of gh and slin used and if possible...peaking together. NOT exogenous bullshit IGF..

No it don't.

I WANT to run it like this (bcaa with carbs under the workout)
when the insulin high. But if you drink a shake like that you will blunt
your GH release.

Not that fun to run 10iu of growth and then blunt your release cause
you drink carbs under the workout..

Regards

Lol at the shake blunting exogenous GH. Maybe you shouldn't be giving advice.

 

[SwedishSteel]

Lol at the shake blunting exogenous GH. Maybe you shouldn't be giving advice.

What are you talking about?

Do you think you can use carbs with growh?
There is a reason why you wait 20 minutes after a inject to shoot insulin.

Yes I know what I talk about, I admit I don't know how long its "active"
in the body. But I do know what will be more effective, to shot it pwo or shoot
it post.

 

[saffire]

No it don't.

I WANT to run it like this (bcaa with carbs under the workout)
when the insulin high. But if you drink a shake like that you will blunt
your GH release.

Not that fun to run 10iu of growth and then blunt your release cause
you drink carbs under the workout..

Regards

so in that case, what would be best idea to do ?

don't run slin pre-w, but 30min after gh shot?

 

[SwedishSteel]

so in that case, what would be best idea to do ?

don't run slin pre-w, but 30min after gh shot?

Exactly, but I would shoot it 20 minutes after my GH shot.

Do you run slin in the mornings?
(Like if you had a hard workout the day before, like legs or back)
In that case you can shoot gh right away when you wake up and
20 mins later shoot slin.

This is the second best time to shot gh/slin, when your body are beaten up and screams for nutrients, then you shoot your growth/slin and then eating a big breakfast !

Personally I don't use slin in the mornings. But sometimes when I feel that my body need the nutrients and I have trained something I really want to grow I use it.

If you got cash, buy IGF and ghrp/cjc. It will work great
I don't need as much growth If I use ghrp/cjc, then I can shoot peptides
in the morning and eat my food, instead of using GH. Then I can focus on using growth Post wo instead.

Good luck !

 

[Knight9]

What are you talking about?

Do you think you can use carbs with growh?
There is a reason why you wait 20 minutes after a inject to shoot insulin.

Yes I know what I talk about, I admit I don't know how long its "active"
in the body. But I do know what will be more effective, to shot it pwo or shoot it post.

I KNOW YOU CAN.

so in that case, what would be best idea to do ?

don't run slin pre-w, but 30min after gh shot?

The best thing for you to do would be to never take advice from Swedish and ask and listen to advice from more established and knowledgeable members...not someone just regurgetating info that sounded good to them.

Use GH and Slin pre workout to create a LARGE surge in IGF naturally from these two powerful tools.

 

[SwedishSteel]

I KNOW YOU CAN.



The best thing for you to do would be to never take advice from Swedish and ask and listen to advice from more established and knowledgeable members...not someone just regurgetating info that sounded good to them.

Use GH and Slin pre workout to create a LARGE surge in IGF naturally from these two powerful tools.

U don't trust me?

Read the 1st awnser to this thread

"If using humalog, let the hgh clear for 30 minutes before dosing the insulin so they don't interfere with each other. I got that from DATBTRUE years ago and it always worked well. For mass they say to dose the HGH in one big bolus amount post workout. Take the slin a half hour later. "

Or is johnjuanb1 just talking BS to?

Get you fact straight.

 

[Knight9]

U don't trust me?

Read the 1st awnser to this thread

"If using humalog, let the hgh clear for 30 minutes before dosing the insulin so they don't interfere with each other. I got that from DATBTRUE years ago and it always worked well. For mass they say to dose the HGH in one big bolus amount post workout. Take the slin a half hour later. "

Or is johnjuanb1 just talking BS to?

Get you fact straight.

Dat has been proven to not be right all the time. Jjb1 is learning as he goes. I listen to DOCTORS like Dr. Serrano and Alpha6164. My facts are straight.

For high igf you want to likely dose GH twice daily. A bolus amount will work well too. Gh and slin to create lots of IGF...use them together...preferably pre workout.

Your answers keep proving why no one should be listening to you. You're just repeating(OUTDATED) shit from people on boards.