Thanks everyone... Knight I hear you but I've talked to RS allot about this through PM as well and he's never once mentioned peps bc I think he understood I was trying to minimize the amount of stuff I'm taking right now, he's been nothing but extremely helpful with no agenda at all... I have a bunch of peps in my freezer to add in if I wanted but I'm gonna stick with gh and MK at first and see how I like it, it's more about decreasing the amount of compounds and pinning right now than it is the money, well with the gh it's about the money until I figure out if I really think it's worth it or not... and jj I think I like the idea of IM better for a better absorption rate, but thanks for your input as well you have also helped me learn allot, I'll keep what you said in mind to...and elvia thanks to you as well I appreciate all of your feedback...I'm just learning about the growth side of things so talking with you guys and trying different things on my own has helped me learn allot!