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New Jersey BB Championships

GREAT JOB DOKTORSPOK!

xcel
 
thanks!!

thanks Phil!!
i couldnt have done it with out Phil Hernon , anyone seriously looking for contest prep help, get it touch with Phil, beleive me It will be a great investment, not only for the contest prep, but the wealth of Knowledge you ll gain. Phil changed my eating habits, training / workouts and total out look on bodybuilding,

Phil, just so you know, lots of guys were asking how the hell i came in so dry and full and hard. i didnt tell them cause its not just one or two things, it was the whole prep. but i was half tempted to tell cause they probaly wouldnt beleive me if i told them anyway. ok im out and off to bed.

again thanks Phil, for everything, and ill be intouch!
good night.

DOK
 
Could you post some pics??

Great job DOK, and glad to see you went with a good guy on your contest prep.
 
#%#$$@

doktorspok said:
thanks Phil!!
i couldnt have done it with out Phil Hernon , anyone seriously looking for contest prep help, get it touch with Phil, beleive me It will be a great investment, not only for the contest prep, but the wealth of Knowledge you ll gain. Phil changed my eating habits, training / workouts and total out look on bodybuilding,

Phil, just so you know, lots of guys were asking how the hell i came in so dry and full and hard. i didnt tell them cause its not just one or two things, it was the whole prep. but i was half tempted to tell cause they probaly wouldnt beleive me if i told them anyway. ok im out and off to bed.

again thanks Phil, for everything, and ill be intouch!
good night.

DOK


I think that is total bullshit! Phil H doesn't know jack shit! he told me if i stood on my head and barked like a dog 15 times i'd gain 20 lbs of lean muscle...i did it and alll i got was a fucking headache! thanks phil
 
CONGRAT'S!!!!

SPOK!!!

EXCELLENT!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

I haven't been to one in person, but have only heard that NJ shows (and show in N. England and the NE) are TOUGH!!!! To win the state, as a MIDDLEWEIGHT!!! LOL AWESOME!!!

Pics would be very cool.

Again, Congrats!!! What's next?...

-Randy
 
COOL!!!!!

SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE HAPPY......LIFE IS GOOD!
 
Good shit bro, i took 3rd behind him both shows in middleweight. Although didnt seem too tempted to give out info. Im just a kid, so i like to ask a lot of the better lookin competitors what they do loading and water wise, just to see what everyone likes to do, and what works for them. Response i got... " Why am i gonna give you information i had to pay for "
 
thanks guys!!!

ill try to get some pics up soon as i get em!

toopowerful, bro, you were just entirely to happy for me. i had my game face on and you want to pal it up and chat and talk and make all you r little comments all over the place and make sure everyone knows your only 21 years old and you need more muscle maturity. bro you need to tone it down a notch not everyone is as carefree and outgoing as you are especially when a state title is on the line and you in the hunt. hopefully youll know what that is like one day and good luck to you, i know you were only being a nice guy and being friendly, but i still consider you a competitor and im not gona give out my secrets or tricks to competitors so they can use the ammo against me one day.. get where im coming from?

DOK
 
ok... one i was just happy to lose to the best guy in the show, makes me feel like i did better.

You looked good, so i figured u deserved the compliments, even tho your an asshole.

You musta been listening pretty fuckin hard to me, since the only people i talked about muscle maturity was my boy and some of his friends and teen competitors, since we all needed it.

And game face, its not like ur "game face' is gonna mean the difference between you winning and losing, ur not gonna hurt your conditiion by smiling and chatin w a fellow competitor.

And bro, ammo against u? I will NEVER again in my life be close to as light as i was. You and me will never be in the same weight class ever again. Your "tricks" arent the only ones out there, and your the ONLY competitor who looked good, and refuse to have a conversation with me so i could learn what different poeple like to do. Just makes me think ur a little too wrapped up in your ego and attitude. Its ok tho. I wonder where you would be, or woulda been this weekend, if any time you asked a question, someone gave you the answer you gave me. Youd prolly know half the shit u do now, as im sure u didnt PAY for everything you know.

Still wont knock ur performance, u were on. Good luck in the future, hope to see you on stage again when i decide to compete again ;)
 
what are you talking about

bro , i understand you didnt like my answer, and so be it, but, i didnt say a word to anyone all day, i did however give getbig 27 some pedialite when he was cramping. the only way i know all about you is we were kinda sitting next to one another in the back and i could hear you all day. someone would give you advice or coment on your shape or what have you and if you didnt like what they said you always had some comment. yes i heard every word you said, cause we were in the same class and we were constantly next to each other , except you were the only one talking, or asking questions while everyone else was pumping up oiling up or what have you, there is a time and place for everything and there is so much information on this board by itself. loads of awesome members out there with tons of knowledge in many areas of this sport that would be more than willing to give you very sound advice.

sorry if we rubbed each other the wrong way but after seeing you for 5 min at the show i knew the type and me personnaly steer clear of them. theres always that one really outgoing guy that talks to everyone in the gym ask people abot there workouts , training , diet, supplements and asks for advice, then will turn around and ask the same questions to the next guy, and then the next.. im not saying your like that, just thats what you reminded me of and im the quiet type so i steer clear of those guys. like i said , if you think im an asshole - fine, i was trying to stay focused and on track and not give in to drink some water. i just wasnt in the mood for conversation and the last thing i wanted to talk about carbing up and cutting water , the 2 things that i was feeling the effects of at that moment.
but for onnly being 21 i think you looked great , good luck in the future bro.!!!!!!

DOK
 
Fair enough. Yes to be in the condition you were in, you probably felt dry as shit. That’s why after trying to talk to you, and getting that response, I didn’t say another word to you the entire day, except congrats and a handshake.

I ask questions or held conversations at appropriate times, NEVER oiling up or pumping up, except when me and like 5 of the other middleweights were talking 1min before stage time. I ask questions to learn, and I only take advice from people who show in their appearance, that their advice works. Just because someone tells me a few things, doesn’t mean im gonna use ur info next time, cause what works for you, might not work for me. For my level of muscular development, I don’t think I came out too badly anyway condition wise.

Ur correct assuming im an outgoing and friendly person. If anyone ever asked me for advice, id be more than happy to share anything to help them improve themselves. Refusing to help a competitor like that only shows you feel threatened by them, or what they could do in the future. I do ask the same questions to a lot, so I can see what the majority likes to do. Makes sense. Never in the middle of someones workout tho, only appropriate times.

Steer clear of people like me if you decide, I most certainly will people like u. Just remember you not sharing some advice with me, doesn’t mean I cant get just as good if not better info elsewhere, and bring in an impressive package next time… good luck in the future tho, im sure il see you around.
 
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|--[\\\]>--------- Not sharing info with another competitor is kinda shitty if you ask me. I'd take it as a compliment if s'one did that, BUT i see Doc's point...it's show time, you have NO H20, you're hungry, light headed, hot, but you can't sweat, not the best of moods, i guess there is a time to socialize. I wasn't at the show, nor was i back stage, but i can only imagine what Doc was going through, but the kid is young and wants to learn...you can only learn by asking q's....i see both sides of the argument.
 
If you think he was bad at the show, imagine me trying to help him for the last week or so before this show. :eek:

He drove me absolutely fucking crazy at times - second guessing everything, changing his mind every 2 minutes and posting several times a day in my forum.

However, he really is a good kid at heart and really just wants to learn as much as he possibly can and WHY to do what and how and.... *sigh* LOL

I understand Doc's point, completely. Just pointing out that Tpowerful is a good guy with alot of questions.

He reminds me of that little dog that follows the big bull dog (spike) and jumps over him, around him, always talking and asking spike what he wants... until spike slaps him. LOL

Skip
 
LOL Skip. I don’t think Skip even brushed on how much of a pain I prolly was lol. He stuck with me tho and kept me in check, that took heart lol.

Before I do anything, il always ask the question and what, where, why, and how about it. I don’t like to just make my own assumptions or try to draw my own conclusions based on nothing, although there has been times when I did, I TRY to avoid doing so for the most part.

Just remember Skip lol…. Soon enough with my hunger, drive, dedication, and the way I suck up knowledge and apply it, il be the big bulldog soon enough (il never slap the little guy for askin questions tho lol) :D
 
hey dok

congrats!@!!!! yes i too have the game face but im probably the nicest guy when im not competing!!!!! and big bad asian....... when you pay YOUR hard earned money for prep you would understand about giving away secrets...ask KO.
 
finally

yes Skip you nailed it. and at that particular point in time i was in no mood to deal with questions.

DPS squat is a national level competitor, one i admire and respect, that is exactly what i was talking about , why do all these contest prep gurus, charge a fee, because its valuble information and if you can pull it together and make it work for you i see no need to share with everyone. i am on these boards and sites and magazines constantly, i picked a direction and went with it, found an awesome contest prepping trainer in Phil Hernon, whom i did pay for the info, i found it very valiable, because it worked extremely well. i didnt think i was nt nice i just told him i had to pay, why give it out for free. i guess he didnt like my answer.

next time il just make up some BS story so i dont piss people off. LOL

thanks for all the congrats guys.

DOK
 
Best i can do for right now with a shitty scanner and one time use camera lol. I will have much better pix in a few days. This does NONE of us justice, especially docspok. Top 5 (class of 8 or 9)

From left to right (2nd, 5th, 3rd(me), 4th, 1st(spock)
 

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