A little help

[RetiredArmy0513]

I know a question like this probably has crossed everyone's eyes a Ike or so but I couldn't find anything recent and this is more about my body than someone else's. I am just looking for advice. I have been completely off AAS for a little over 3 weeks now. Had great results with my last cycle which was basically my first real legit one. I have been on Dr prescribed TRT since 2011 so this is the first time I have been completely off Test. The first few weeks I didn't really notice anything but these past couple days have been rough on me. I am just not recovering from workouts the way I am used to. I did legs yesterday and I can barely walk today, still pushed through my workout today bur now my whole body is a little sore, legs still terrible. My question is... does this sort of go away and you just get used to it? Do I ease back my workout routine and go about 75% of what I was doing? Is there anything OTC that can help this out or supplement that can help? I have lost 4 lbs in 3 weeks so I feel pretty good about that. Weighed 181 today pre workout. How much of a factor is not taking anything in regards to maintaining gains. I don't plan on staying off. I have to get blood work from the doc at the end of the year. So I have about another 6 weeks to go of this. I appreciate all feedback even if you guys tell me I'm a moron[emoji51]


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[kandaandm]

Have you done any post cycle therapy?

 

[RetiredArmy0513]

Have you done any post cycle therapy?

No... did bloods at end and everything was in normal range except total and free test and cholesterol was a little high... not total just ldl... I'm doing another one at the end of the month to check test levels again, but I'm not going to address anything else since everything else was normal. My cycle was very moderate 600 test 300 deca 300 mast p... no orals and it was 8 weeks. My estradiol was high halfway through so I adjusted aromasin. Hematocrit was 42, estradiol was 34.


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[Airhonn]

Whats up brotha,

Look man, your comin down from the high! Honestly its most likely in your head, and the deca wont even leave your system for quite a while. There is a reason career bodybuilders dont come off....so they dont have the crash.

My advice if your going to cycle, is to be prepared for this to happen. There is no coming up without a come down my friend.

Do your best to keep training intensity up, you havnt lost 4 pounds of muscle I promise you that.



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[heavyhitter]

Is there a particular reason why you didn't go back to your trt doses after coming off your blast? I'm assuming you were on because you had naturally low levels, yes?

 

[RetiredArmy0513]

Is there a particular reason why you didn't go back to your trt doses after coming off your blast? I'm assuming you were on because you had naturally low levels, yes?

I have to give bloods for the doc the last week of December.. that is the latest he would let me go. Will be 7 months... if I were to give them now I would probably be fucked... I'm trying to stay off until they are in normal range again and according to mine he doesn't like when I'm over 800... he starts asking questions... he already lowered me to 200 mg eow because it was a little over 800 last spring. I guess I don't want to lose a gift right now... although I guess for the next how many years I do this it will be harder and harder to do with getting everything in line in a certain time frame. As soon as my levels are back between 700-800,I will start pinning 200mg eow again


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[Flexpack215]

Bro your not a moron this is a completely valid question for anyone starting out, we saw some amazing gains with you over the last few months! It's amazing living a life with AAS and one without huh. Aiding recovery is everything you've had the last few months, I may suggest upping your test if you can but coming off cold turkey like that will effect anyone. This is generally why it's best to taper down slowly then run your PCT. It will get better as the weeks go on but I'm here to tell you it's depressing every time you come off a cycle like that. Back to regular life now bro! Keep your protein high and get 8+ hours of sleep. Ease into those Gruesome workouts, you have nothing helping you recover anymore so your going to really feel the doms. Keep it up brother!


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[RetiredArmy0513]

Bro your not a moron this is a completely valid question for anyone starting out, we saw some amazing gains with you over the last few months! It's amazing living a life with AAS and one without huh. Aiding recovery is everything you've had the last few months, I may suggest upping your test if you can but coming off cold turkey like that will effect anyone. This is generally why it's best to taper down slowly then run your PCT. It will get better as the weeks go on but I'm here to tell you it's depressing every time you come off a cycle like that. Back to regular life now bro! Keep your protein high and get 8+ hours of sleep. Ease into those Gruesome workouts, you have nothing helping you recover anymore so your going to really feel the doms. Keep it up brother!


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Thank you... the next one is all panned and I will have ample time to get everything in check before I get tested. I guess I just pushed back my last cycle so I could be in better shape before I used. And I'm glad I did also... probably was a good reason I had no noticeable sides at all and was a good experience all the way around.


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[concreter]

You could of just waited 4 weeks before your test for your numbers to plummet.
Shit even when I am on a good cycle my Legs could be sore for 7-10days if you hit them hard!
All bodyparts for that manner.

 

[Elvia1023]

You could of just waited 4 weeks before your test for your numbers to plummet.
Shit even when I am on a good cycle my Legs could be sore for 7-10days if you hit them hard!
All bodyparts for that manner.

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I trained legs yesterday and they have been bad today and I know they will be much worst tomorrow and the next day. I am off now but it's the same when I am blasting away. If my legs aren't hurting the next few days I definitely haven't trained them hard enough.

OP you feel bad now because it takes about 3 weeks for your hormones to start crashing when using what you did. The next 6 weeks will not be fun for you. If it makes you feel any better I am going through the same thing

 

[Flexpack215]

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I trained legs yesterday and they have been bad today and I know they will be much worst tomorrow and the next day. I am off now but it's the same when I am blasting away. If my legs aren't hurting the next few days I definitely haven't trained them hard enough.



OP you feel bad now because it takes about 3 weeks for your hormones to start crashing when using what you did. The next 6 weeks will not be fun for you. If it makes you feel any better I am going through the same thing

That hormonal crash is the worst, after USA's this year I was miserable for 6-7 weeks coming off everything and trying to cleanse. Depression at its worst!


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[RetiredArmy0513]

I'm really trying to be aware of all the little things going on in my body...one funny thing to me is all that time on test and even the blast recently no acne at all... once I got off I started getting acne on my chest and a little on my arm(tricep) area... it's slowly getting better but hormones are amazing. I guess it is their way of saying "what the fuck are you doing"? Sex drive and erections not affected at all... still doing the cialis every 3 days same as I was on cycle. Hopefully I'll only have to hold out another 3 or 4 weeks and then get back on TRT but until January


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[jasong]

I would switch to something like npp next time instead of deca if you are going to be monitored. Doesn't help you right now but something to consider in the future.

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[RetiredArmy0513]

I would switch to something like npp next time instead of deca if you are going to be monitored. Doesn't help you right now but something to consider in the future.

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I was taking NPP for the first 6 weeks and it was causing me terrible heartburn. Switched to deca and there was no problem... but yeah it would be ideal with my situation


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[Big-Dawg]

I'm really trying to be aware of all the little things going on in my body...one funny thing to me is all that time on test and even the blast recently no acne at all... once I got off I started getting acne on my chest and a little on my arm(tricep) area... it's slowly getting better but hormones are amazing. I guess it is their way of saying "what the fuck are you doing"? Sex drive and erections not affected at all... still doing the cialis every 3 days same as I was on cycle. Hopefully I'll only have to hold out another 3 or 4 weeks and then get back on TRT but until January


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Man I feel your pain I went off self trt to see if I'd bounce back,waited 4 months to get bloods to find out my total test was 89 lol...Got right back on trt lol...Your a brave man ready for hell as you know brother...

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