I'm currently using it myself, I think the jury is out for me as to what's doing what. I started trt about a month ago and haven't ever done it without hcg so I don't really have much of a basis for comparison. That being said life has improved quite a bit since starting trt so I figure why tinker with things. I have bloods coming up soon so we'll see how those look and go from there. I'll update here after I get the results. The "clinic" I got to is super strange, they treat hcg as an add on that you can just do or not do every visit, seems pretty ill informed of them but we'll see.