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Ancillaries for First Cycle:

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30 years old. Lifting this time around for 3 years. Bodyweight 185lbs with 10% BF. Goals are lasting strength, 15-20lbs of LBM. Lifting Routine 5x5 plus assistance work in 8-15 rep range. Diet 4500 calories, clean whole foods, no grain, enough protein.

I'm wondering if the Ancillaries look okay? Is there something missing? Too much? Is there anything that should be on hand just in case? Any advice will be much appreciated.

Cycle
- HGH 4iu ED start 3 months prior and continue indefinitely
- Week 1-12: Test E @ 400mg/week
- Week 6-12: Anavar @ 60mg ED

Ancillaries:
- Week 1-12: Aromason @ 12.5mg ED (bump up to 25mg if symptoms start)
- Week 1-17: Nolvadex @20mg ED (40mg ED during weeks 14&15)
- 3 days after last pin: HCG 500iu/day for 10 days
- 3 days after last HCG pin start Clomid -
- Clomid Day 1: 300mg
- Clomid Day 2-11: 100mg ED
- Clomid Day 11-21: 50mg ED

Supplements:
Milk Thistle
Liver 52
Fish Oil
Multivitamin
Chronium
Vitamin C
Glucosamine
Glutamine
BCAA
Creatne
Taurine if needed
Accutane if needed
 
Drop the nolvadex if you have aromasin on hand.
Do anavar 8-14 .
Start HCG after week 14.
Just do a week of 100mg clomid and a week of 50mg clomid.
It's enough.
 
Drop the nolvadex if you have aromasin on hand.
Do anavar 8-14 .
Start HCG after week 14.
Just do a week of 100mg clomid and a week of 50mg clomid.
It's enough.

Thanks for the fast advice Sieve. I took a lot of info from a lot of places, and when I put it all on paper it seemed like quite a lot for just a little test and var.

Again, thanks.
 
Why not run hcg at 200-250 iu 2 x EW through the whole cycle right up to 3 days prior to stating pct?
 
Why not run hcg at 200-250 iu 2 x EW through the whole cycle right up to 3 days prior to stating pct?

That sounds like a good Idea, one I have seen. It's just that there are so many options its hard to tell which would be the best, it can get very confusing, but that's why I'm here asking questions. Maybe it would be a good idea to have some extra on hand.
 
That sounds like a good Idea, one I have seen. It's just that there are so many options its hard to tell which would be the best, it can get very confusing, but that's why I'm here asking questions. Maybe it would be a good idea to have some extra on hand.

I would run 200-250 iu 2 X EW through the cycle. Make sure to have an AI for the cycle as well
 
Aromason will be ran 12.5mg ED through the cycle.
HCG throughout
Clomid PCT

Nolva will not be ran throughout the cycle, but should it be used as PCT alongside the Clomid?
 
I have always ran nolva alongside clomid during pct
 

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