another HPTA question

[Conan21]

I was recently on test and dbol for 3 or 4 weeks and decided to come off for a few personal reasons

i was running 400 mgs of test and 20 mgs of dbol

I plan on starting a new routine soon and i'm pretty pissed that i started in the first place. I'm just wondering how bad do you guys think this affected my natural test. I was not running much and not on for long

what would u guys recomend to get my test back up as fast as possible.

 

[BigBoyJ]

How long has it been since you were on before this? If it's been a long time since your last cycle, then only being on for 4 weeks should be VERY easy to recover from. If the test you were taking was a long acting ester, of course your own test won't start producing again until it's out of your system. I'd just do some clomid therapy and maybe a little tribulus. I don't think you were on long enough to cause a problem.

 

[Maverick]

you really hardly even raised HPTA levels at all. You were only on 400mgs per week for 3-4 weeks which is minimal at best and the life of d-bol is about 8 hours for peak levels concentrations so bro in all reality you didn't do enough for long enough to really be worried about anything.


Maverick

 

[xcelbeyond]

I also like to use clen post cycle for it's anti-catabolic qualities. There's a number of things that will help - I think many are mentioned in my How To Keep Those Hard Earned Gains thread in the Articles Forum.

One thing I'd avoid is hcg.

 

[Conan21]

I had been off for a long time previously. Almost a full year.

also

its been 7 days since my last shot

 

[MikeS]

That should hardly affect the HPTA - especially since its been 1yr since you were on. You could do clomid EOD for a month just to be safe.

If I recall correct, you have to be on with a constant elevated blood level of exogenious test for 2wks minimum to begin to effect the HPTA. And any AS which aromatizes will further effect it also. But really, that also may not be enough time or doseage for alot of aromatization. You have to have a significant buildup accumulated before aromatization becomes a problem-that dose and time on may not be enough (hopefully).

 

[Hypertrophyguy]

SPeaking with my doctor, he is also the medical director of hoffman & Ruesch pharmaceuticals, told me the best way to stimulate FSH and LH is to ejaculate. There is a drug but I forgot what its called that stimulates FSH and LH and is much better at jump starting the leydig cells. He is very against clomid as he says it is a bandaid and not a fix.

Just my .02 cents.

 

[Conan21]

Ejaculate huh? LOL

that does make sense kind of.

I have just a lil bit Nolvadex and some Armidex, and Letro laying around

maybe get some tribulus

what do u guys think would be a good dose of Nolva and would should i start this.


I've been off for so long my juice knowlegde has faded a lil. LOL

 

[TooPowerful4u]

I always prefer clomid post cycle since it really increases my loads and sex drive, leading me to believe its workin. Blood tests have shown i recover fairly quick also, even when i was on for 5 months last time. If the boys are shrunk use HCG BEFORE the end of the cycle to get them back to normal size and properly prepped to get kickin. If u use it post cycle itl just hinder ur HPTA recovery. I also gotta agree ejaculating frequently helps recovery a lot, and i believe that is gonna help also.. having lady friends post cycle is a must.

 

[Rogue]

I always prefer clomid post cycle since it really increases my loads and sex drive, leading me to believe its workin. Blood tests have shown i recover fairly quick also, even when i was on for 5 months last time. If the boys are shrunk use HCG BEFORE the end of the cycle to get them back to normal size and properly prepped to get kickin. If u use it post cycle itl just hinder ur HPTA recovery. I also gotta agree ejaculating frequently helps recovery a lot, and i believe that is gonna help also.. having lady friends post cycle is a must.

use 20mg 2x ED tamox for 10 days. that should do it. i like tamox better than clomid 100-1. Thats all I do even after heavy cycles and recently before getting ready for this season I had been off for 12 weeks, 1 week before the cycle my free test was at 860. I was very pleased.