Aromasin Hair Loss

[John99Test]

Has anyone had major shedding while using Aromasin? What would be an appropriate dosage of Aromasin per day while on 200mg of test a week? I have been using 25mg per day and I think its too much. I really need this hair loss to stop ASAP. Thanks. Should i switch to Arimidex instead or maybe Tamoxifen? Please help. Thanks.

 

[ssdark1]

im no expert, but i wouldnt use any at 200mgs a wk.

if i did it would be 12.5 eod.

 

[617ricky]

You made a thread weeks ago complaining about symptoms you thought were from too low an estrogen level, and I also remember saying that 25mg/day is too high of a dosage to just start on (esp. on low Test dosages), and that cutting it in half would be a good idea.. So what's your reasoning for continuing with 25mg? Did you get lab results back or something? Running ancillaries is usually a good idea if they are indeed necessary, but taking doses that are too high for what you may think is an added benefit, may be doing more harm than good.

 

[Wolfpack]

From all the threads you've started about hair loss seems like you'd be bald by now.

 

[617ricky]

From all the threads you've started about hair loss seems like you'd be bald by now.

And all the stress and dreading it to stop could indeed make it worse.. If you're literally shedding hair like this where it's instantly noticeable, it's apparent that MPB is in your genetics.. And being on gear will undoubtedly accelerate the process.. Thing is tho, you'd still eventually lose it anyway even w/o the gear.. I've wondered how much gear usage does speed the hair loss process up, but I doubt it's by too much.. It's all in the genetics, and if someone has great robust hair follicles, no amount of gear will take it away..

I dunno how advanced your MPB really is, but if it is creeping pretty far back, then there's not gonna be any magic solution, short of a wig or transplant.. Maybe try a different hair style or something, or just relax with the gear..

 

[FilthyMick]

12.5 mg ED is too much for me so i could only imagine what 25 a day would do

 

[strognarm]

Too high of a dose, take it down to @ least half that. For that dose of test, it wouldnt hurt to use it EOD instead of ED also. That compound stays in your system for days. YOull be fine.

 

[Jarconis]

go natty or shave it. You will give yourself a heart attack trying to walk that fine line between being chemically enhanced and trying to keep your hair while fighting your genetics.

 

[John99Test]

I guess I will run the Aromasin at 12.5mg EOD and see if that helps. I am not ready to go bald yet.

 

[John99Test]

And all the stress and dreading it to stop could indeed make it worse.. If you're literally shedding hair like this where it's instantly noticeable, it's apparent that MPB is in your genetics.. And being on gear will undoubtedly accelerate the process.. Thing is tho, you'd still eventually lose it anyway even w/o the gear.. I've wondered how much gear usage does speed the hair loss process up, but I doubt it's by too much.. It's all in the genetics, and if someone has great robust hair follicles, no amount of gear will take it away..

I dunno how advanced your MPB really is, but if it is creeping pretty far back, then there's not gonna be any magic solution, short of a wig or transplant.. Maybe try a different hair style or something, or just relax with the gear..

Not creeping, but overall diffuse thinning. I am using spiro cream on my scalp, rogaine twice a day, finasteride and its still falling out. It has to be the Aromasin knocking my estrogen so low that my hair loss is similar to what a menopausal woman would be going through. Estrogen protects hair. Thanks for everyone's input. I am so god damn envious of AAS users who could use 3grams of test a week and not see any hair loss. Just god damn unfair

 

[John99Test]

From all the threads you've started about hair loss seems like you'd be bald by now.

You'd think but NO. If thats you in your avi, you are a lucky bastard.

 

[mopchopper]

i just couldnt pass up posting in a hair thread....lol.....im a barber and i say just shave that stuff off and forget about it

 

[EDED]

if you are using all that DHT blocker and still falling out then check yout thyroid and adrenal

 

[Macro]

stress causes shedding.

As to actual alopecia.
note- likely your finasteride dose is still to high.

you should be using nizoral shampoo.

exemestane and steroids lower SHBG, the hormone that is most freed by this is DHT. competitives do not as strongly affect SHBG. Oral steroids significant suppress SHBG. you would likely benefit from raising SHBG.

if you lower exemestane dose, lower it and take daily.

what else are you taking?

you may need an iron supplement, shedding (telogen effluvium) vs. alopecia.

 

[dudeface]

definitely Nizoral is helpful. I use OTC 1% every day, on and off cycle and I am noticing minimal shedding.

 

[communistkiller]

1) 12.5 Aromasin EOD is VERY sufficient.

2) Go to minoxidil.com, there you can get 2% nizoral plus additional topicals that work. I used a day solution, and a night solution, plus finastaride... It would cost me about $100-150 per month, but it worked.

3) If you are suffering from Male pattern hair loss: You cannot STOP hair loss, you can only slow it down.

.... I now shave my head, and am much happier. I dont have that added anxiety and I now save $100+ a month....

 

[turbobusa]

I have no hair so that part i can't comment on. aromasin for me works well on small dosage. 6.25ed with 1000mg test e. That is some really strong stuff.
If i feel joint sensitivity I skip a day or 2. Works for me.

 

[sexyboy]

i am pretty sure hair loss from arm is do to its effect of increasing free test.

SB

 

[Kaladryn]

1. Even 12.5mg EOD is too much for 200mg/week test, unless you have hyperactive aromatase.

2. You need to take it daily, the half-life is 9 hours. I would try 3mg/day.

3. Rogaine should have no effect on DHT based hair loss.

4. Finasteride is nasty stuff IMO, at MOST you need .25mg/day. If you look at the original Finasteride study you will see .2mg does the job, and 200mg/week isn't much more than natural production:

Drake L, Hordinsky M, Fiedler V, Swinehart J, Unger WP, Cotterill PC, Thiboutot DM, Lowe N, Jacobson C, Whiting D, Stieglitz S, Kraus SJ, Griffin EI, Weiss D, Carrington P, Gencheff C, Cole GW, Pariser DM, Epstein ES, Tanaka W, Dallob A, Vandormael K, Geissler L, Waldstreicher J. The effects of finasteride on scalp skin and serum androgen levels in men with androgenetic alopecia. J Am Acad Dermatol 1999 Oct;41(4):550-4
BACKGROUND: Data suggest that androgenetic alopecia is a process dependent on dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and type 2 5alpha-reductase. Finasteride is a type 2 5alpha-reductase inhibitor that has been shown to slow further hair loss and improve hair growth in men with androgenetic alopecia. OBJECTIVE: We attempted to determine the effect of finasteride on scalp skin and serum androgens. METHODS: Men with androgenetic alopecia (N = 249) underwent scalp biopsies before and after receiving 0.01, 0.05, 0.2, 1, or 5 mg daily of finasteride or placebo for 42 days. RESULTS: Scalp skin DHT levels declined significantly by 13.0% with placebo and by 14.9%, 61.6%, 56. 5%, 64.1%, and 69.4% with 0.01, 0.05, 0.2, 1, and 5 mg doses of finasteride, respectively. Serum DHT levels declined significantly (P <.001) by 49.5%, 68.6%, 71.4%, and 72.2% in the 0.05, 0.2, 1, and 5 mg finasteride treatment groups, respectively. CONCLUSION: In this study, doses of finasteride as low as 0.2 mg per day maximally decreased both scalp skin and serum DHT levels. These data support the rationale used to conduct clinical trials in men with male pattern hair loss at doses of finasteride between 0.2 and 5 mg.

5. You can switch to letro, but it will destroy your sex drive, or you can switch to arimidex, but it will destroy your lipids.

 

[inacloudofchalk]

i know this thread is old but i wanted to state that aromasin and arimidex cause hair loss, not because of lowering estradiol or increasing free test or total test. people forget that these are powerful cancer drugs and whatever is in it is not natural. women often lose hair on arimidex and aromasin. just do a search for these drugs and their effect on hair loss. having said that, im 28 and losing my hair as well. it has thinned quite a bit but im not bald and my hair line hasnt receded much and ive had the widows peak since i was 14. i used gear on and off and now am on HRT, just 100mg/week test and hcg 500iu/week. i dont take arimidex or aromasin, i do DIM. i was feeling horrible on arimidex. i felt highly stressed out, heart palpitations, panic attacks, anxiety, uneasy, and did notice hair thinning on it as well. i must admit that i was using 200mg test that week so the estradiol was high as well but i took .25mg adex for 3 days straight. you would think those side effects were from estradiol but with that amount of adex, you would also think they would go away but they just got worse. it was the adex itself. it affects everyone differently and every brand is different too. i was using Altraz, a generic.

im still fine tuning my doses overall and am trying to find a dose to put my total around 700-800 and not have much of an increase in estradiol else i have to adjust my doses again. i gave up bodybuilding a long time ago as i did my first cycle in 2000, just want to be in good shape, be muscular etc and im more than positive i can get to my goal on 100mg/week test w/hcg. im not far from it anyway.

so either stay natural or do HRT doses and stay on. or like the barber said, just chop it off and forget about it. i know that one day i will lose all my hair but i dont take all these drugs or put weird stuff on my hair and i wont do it. if i go bald, i go bald. ill just shave it and wear a black hat. for what is worth, i do make my own herbal shampoo because it works better, doesnt have chemicals in it, and is cheaper. i just take a few herbs, boil them, strain and mix with castille soap.