CJC-1295 DAC, Ipamorelin, IGF DES 1,3 5 times every day

[LiveNDie]

I could be un employed in about 4-5 months. I'm trying to deside what to do with all my spare time. So, I figured since the body can only use 2-3IU of HGH at a time why not try this:
Weeks 1-?? CJC-1295 DAC 60mcg 5 times a day
Weeks 1-?? Ipamorelin 25mcg 5 times a day
Weeks 1-5,6, or 7 IGF DES 1,3 20mcg 5 times a day
I know IGF blunts the release of HGH, but I'm not sure this is true with DES 1,3. Any way thoughts?

 

[tornpie]

Are you using any AAS? What is your goal? Lean muscle? Fat loss? Using peptides for muscle gain without AAS seems a bit expensive and not very effective.

Either way it is always interesting to get different insights using different dosing protocols.

 

[LiveNDie]

I use AAS, but I use the shorter cycle method though. My goal is recomp. and I agree with you on that one, bro.

 

[tornpie]

I had some good results using IGF-1 des 1,3 for PCT after using trenbolone in a cycle. I think that trenbolone upregulates the IGF receptors on muscle making any kind of IGF-1/tren mix very potent.

I never used CJC/GHRP while using trenbolone concurrently, but I bet it would be kick ass. Particularly with the insomnia issues. The other AAS all have different GH and IGF mechanisms which would probably change the optimal protocols I'd imagine.

 

[LiveNDie]

I had some good results using IGF-1 des 1,3 for PCT after using trenbolone in a cycle. I think that trenbolone upregulates the IGF receptors on muscle making any kind of IGF-1/tren mix very potent.

I never used CJC/GHRP while using trenbolone concurrently, but I bet it would be kick ass. Particularly with the insomnia issues. The other AAS all have different GH and IGF mechanisms which would probably change the optimal protocols I'd imagine.

With IGF-1 DES 1,3 did you notice more of a systematic effect or local. Also this tren hypothesis do you have any data to back it up or is it purely speculation?

 

[tornpie]

Elsevier

Effect of a combined trenbolone acetate and estradiol implant on steady-state IGF-I mRNA concentrations in the liver of wethers and the longissimus muscle of steers -- Johnson et al. 76 (2): 491 -- Journal of Animal Science

Effects of flax supplementation and a combined trenbolone acetate and estradiol implant on circulating insulin-like growth factor-I and muscle insulin-like growth factor-I messenger RNA levels in beef cattle -- Dunn et al. 81 (12): 3028 -- Journal of

Pretty much a lot of research on cattle when I google scholar it. How much this carries over into humans? Who knows?

 

[tornpie]

I injected into muscles worked immediately postworkout. Couldn't really give you any opinion on how local or systemic it was. Just that it seemed to concentrate a shitload of recovery into the hour after the injections. I was still making gains while in PCT.

I ran out of insulin pins one time and failed to inject one muscle worked, a shoulder or trap I believe. I injected the right but not the left and the left felt sore throughout the day.

 

[LiveNDie]

Elsevier

Effect of a combined trenbolone acetate and estradiol implant on steady-state IGF-I mRNA concentrations in the liver of wethers and the longissimus muscle of steers -- Johnson et al. 76 (2): 491 -- Journal of Animal Science

Effects of flax supplementation and a combined trenbolone acetate and estradiol implant on circulating insulin-like growth factor-I and muscle insulin-like growth factor-I messenger RNA levels in beef cattle -- Dunn et al. 81 (12): 3028 -- Journal of

Pretty much a lot of research on cattle when I google scholar it. How much this carries over into humans? Who knows?

I'm pretty sure the effects were the estrogen not the tren. bro. Then agian they would be just counter acting each other, so, not realy sure depends on the ammount of estrogen.