Do we need to stuff our faces to gain mass?

[flipper2012]

Some of you guys just don't get it. It's about pattern development, not about eating a little more, a lot more, upping the dose, etc.

You need to see what's going on with your body at the moment.

"Okay, so I'm 250lbs @ 10% bodyfat. What am I doing to maintain this? What amount of food and drugs am I consuming? What's my training like?"

Answer that first.

Second, you need to choose one or two of the variables. The first two variables should almost always be food and training.

"How do I get stronger in the proper rep ranges for growth? How will I recover from training better?"

If you're eating 8oz of protein and 1 cup of rice per food meal... Bump it to 10oz of protein and 1.5 cups. If you're drinking 50g shakes, work your way up to 75g.

Follow the pattern for a while. See where it takes you in terms of strength, bodyfat, size, etc. If it doesn't work, and you can fit more food in, go for it. Are you training intensly enough? Try harder. If you're eating and eating and training and training, then give yourself a bump on the dosage of gear.

It's not rocket science. Most of the guys that are always making improvements follow the same damn patterns all the time. A few alterations to the pattern and BOOM. The gains keep coming.

There are other variables, but that's the meat and potatoes.

Look at Dusty and Shelby Starnes. They're OBSESSIVE over their diet and training. They embarass people on stage.

One of the best posts I've read, great advice

 

[bigguns1971]

Can someone give me tips on gaining strength and mass. I am 5'9'' 245 lbs. mid section has hand fulls of fat. I want that fat gone but want to get bigger and stronger at the same time. Is this possible to achieve both of these goals at once and how is the best way. Oh yea doing a cycle with tren and test

 

[bigdog123]

Some of you guys just don't get it. It's about pattern development, not about eating a little more, a lot more, upping the dose, etc.

You need to see what's going on with your body at the moment.

"Okay, so I'm 250lbs @ 10% bodyfat. What am I doing to maintain this? What amount of food and drugs am I consuming? What's my training like?"

Answer that first.

Second, you need to choose one or two of the variables. The first two variables should almost always be food and training.

"How do I get stronger in the proper rep ranges for growth? How will I recover from training better?"

If you're eating 8oz of protein and 1 cup of rice per food meal... Bump it to 10oz of protein and 1.5 cups. If you're drinking 50g shakes, work your way up to 75g.

Follow the pattern for a while. See where it takes you in terms of strength, bodyfat, size, etc. If it doesn't work, and you can fit more food in, go for it. Are you training intensly enough? Try harder. If you're eating and eating and training and training, then give yourself a bump on the dosage of gear.

It's not rocket science. Most of the guys that are always making improvements follow the same damn patterns all the time. A few alterations to the pattern and BOOM. The gains keep coming.

There are other variables, but that's the meat and potatoes.

Look at Dusty and Shelby Starnes. They're OBSESSIVE over their diet and training. They embarass people on stage.

Or one could just double their gear intake, add in 10iu HGH per day and add 1-2k calories and add globs of muscle in a short space of time

 

[Big Dave Smith]

Or one could just double their gear intake, add in 10iu HGH per day and add 1-2k calories and add globs of muscle in a short space of time

Then what do you do after a year or two?

You've doubled your gear intake. You added in your GH. You added in 2000calories.

So how much more gear do you have to take? How much more GH? What's your blood pressure? How's your blood work? Have you developed a pattern of food intake that you can pin down so you can put on the extra mass without going haywire?

You mentioned nothing about training, getting stronger, lifting smarter.

It's a really sloppy way of doing things that will ultimately lead to a major plateau or failure. You'll hit a wall, then want to slam more drugs, then wonder why you aren't growing because none of it was mapped out or made sense of.

There are many ways to skin a cat. I like my way. Other guys like to mega dose with no direction. Whatever gets you there.