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My puppy is 8months, we got her at 3months. I recently brought her back to the west coast where i reside from the midwest. Anyway she isnt totally potty trained but knows to go when you say "go potty" and when she's outside in a grassy area. Anyway she's at my condo and I have a small section of the kitchen/dining room blocked off for her with vinyl layed down in case she goes on the floor. Its maybe about 100square feet area. Now she also has a kennel she sleeps in at night. Its pretty good sized. Its a medium/large kennel. Anyway, the problem is when I go to work. She is at home for 9hrs all by herself. I take her out for a walk before i leave but when I get back she usually poops and pee's on the floor but i presume she cant hold it for 9hrs, shit i cant hold mine for 9hrs. Anyway some vets told me to leave her in the kennel all day for 9hrs with a few toys and she will get used to holding it b/c she doesnt have a large space to wonder in, yet other vets said its not good to keep them in a small place like that all day. Im not sure whats best?
 
My puppy is 8months, we got her at 3months. I recently brought her back to the west coast where i reside from the midwest. Anyway she isnt totally potty trained but knows to go when you say "go potty" and when she's outside in a grassy area. Anyway she's at my condo and I have a small section of the kitchen/dining room blocked off for her with vinyl layed down in case she goes on the floor. Its maybe about 100square feet area. Now she also has a kennel she sleeps in at night. Its pretty good sized. Its a medium/large kennel. Anyway, the problem is when I go to work. She is at home for 9hrs all by herself. I take her out for a walk before i leave but when I get back she usually poops and pee's on the floor but i presume she cant hold it for 9hrs, shit i cant hold mine for 9hrs. Anyway some vets told me to leave her in the kennel all day for 9hrs with a few toys and she will get used to holding it b/c she doesnt have a large space to wonder in, yet other vets said its not good to keep them in a small place like that all day. Im not sure whats best?



Kennel train it bro, its the only way!! I know plenty of breeders who only take their dogs out to exercise them, socialize them, and let them use the bathroom. Dont get a cage that is too big, you want one just big enough for them to turn around in and move just a little. I'd suggest not getting a cage more than 1 1/2 to 2x the length of the dog. I know it sounds cruel, but it'll potty train them. just make sure you exercise the dig and walk it, or let it out when you come home. also, as it gets older it will hold it for longer. Especially small dogs, they cant usually hold it long until they're a few months old
 
I agree to big of a kennel will let them think it is ok to go on one side and lay down on the unused part. give them just enough room to turn around in. so when you come home you take them out right then no fiddle farting around and spend some time out there make sure the dog is done with all of it's business before you go inside. treats can help this process but the pup can get dependant on the treat and pee then want to go in and still take a dump or pee in the house so train it to stay out until they have finished all their business outside first. it will take some time for the dog to learn but it will stick with them when they get it..a couple of weeks or so.
 
Do you have a small breed dog?? If so, it will take a longer time before they develop their bladder.. I have two boston terriers and it took till they were close to a year to be able to hold their bladder for 8-9 hours while i was at work..

I tried the cage thing... Maybe its my breed or just my dogs.... But they would take a crap and piss in the cage and then would just sit in it... The poop didn't bother them.. But when i sectioned off a part of the kitchen... They would go in a corner space and would avoid that area till i cleaned it up... Made it much easier to clean up a mistake on my floor.. then have to clean out the cage and give them a bath too... But that was just my experience...

The pup will grow out of it.. Its just a pain in the ass.. In the meantime..
 
I have a ratweiler………….yep! you read correctly .
What is a ratweiler you may ask ! It is a rat terrier with the disposition of a rottweiler.
And I have two of the little monsters. Crate training is the only way.
When you take them outside to do their business make sure you have a puppy treat. !
I like to use Begging Bacon treats.
It is truly dog cocaine.
Just give them a little piece. A very little piece.
And just praise them a little bit.
Don’t go nuts in the praising phase , just enough to let them know that you approve then give them the treat.
Also , You can schedule the timing as to when they go by feeding and watering times.
I’ll grantee you that they will go soon after eating.
I prefer to use a lead when I take them out during this potty training phase.
When you take them out use the word that you use which describes the action you want them to do.
For example , poopoo , number 2 , crap ,pepee ………..ect..ect.

The reason for this is you can get their brains to working on the action before you take the out by simply saying lets go peepee.
The reason for the lead when initially potty training is to keep them focus on what we are doing out here.
If not ! They will be taking YOU out and not the other way around, walking all over the place trying to get the most of this outing.
But , with the lead you are in control.
All this boils down to is positive reinforcement.
Pavlov’s dog.
I’ve done this system to many times without fail.
Just take your time with Fluffy and it will happen.
Depending on the age (The younger the better) usually around six to eight week to be fully trained . Mind you ! This is just a general timeline. I’ve had young dogs learn on the second day.
Two reasons being is that it in their nature to “go “ outside.
Why you ask ! Well what I think is because in the wilds if they went inside their den it would lead predators right to the defend less pups.
Secondly but, not the least of the reason. All they want to do is please their Alpha.

BIGGUNS !
It was your feeding times.
Having a puppy is like have a small baby .
If your feeding them then stuffing the in the crate , what do you expect ?
I’ll be willing to bet that one of the first thing you do in the morning is scratch your nuts and go pee. Right ?
So ! with the understanding that you are scheduled , then it is you duty to use this scheduling thing to make having a “Mans Best Friend” an enjoyable affair.
Correct ?

If anyone decides on having a puppy just remember that there is many requirements.
And being away for twelve hours isn’t one of them.
If that is your case , them go buy you a friggin’ gold fish!



I’ve never see a dog that didn’t have the built in need to please their master.
The problem is that the smart dog has a dumb ass master ?
Yes ?
As soon as you understand that it is You and not the dog that has the problem .
Then and only then will we be ready to start this enjoyable ove affair with our very best friend.

I read somewhere that if you want to prove that your dog and not you wife is your best friend, just through both of them in the trunk of your car and drive around for an hour.
Then open the trunk who do you think will be glad to see you ?

Damn it Man !



Remember you can’t slap them around and expect any good thing to become of it.
The reason is the they don’t understand English .
Do you understand Dog ?
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Now for my Dog Problem
I have a Dog problem that I beg that one of you Bro’s would help me out .

Please help if you can .

Everybody I know who has a dog usually calls him "Rover" or "Spot". I call mine Sex. Now, Sex has been very embarrassing to me. When I went to the City Hall to renew the dog's license, I told the clerk that I would like a license for Sex. He said, "I would like to have one too!" Then I said, "But she is a dog!" He said he didn't care what she looked like. I said, "You don't understand. ... I have had Sex since I was nine years old." He replied, "You must have been quite a strong boy." When I decided to get married, I told the minister that I would like to have Sex at the wedding. He told me to wait until after the wedding was over. I said, "But Sex has played a big part in my life and my whole world revolves around Sex." He said he didn't want to hear about my personal life and would not marry us in his church. I told him everyone would enjoy having Sex at the wedding. The next day we were married at the Justice of the Peace. My family was barred from the church from then on.

When my wife and I went on our honeymoon, I took the dog with me. When we checked into the motel, I told the clerk that I wanted a room for me and my wife and a special room for Sex. He said that every room in the motel is a place for sex. I said, "You don't understand. ... Sex keeps me awake at night." The clerk said, "Me too!"

One day I entered Sex in a contest. But before the competition began, the dog ran away. Another contestant asked me why I was just looking around. I told him that I was going to have Sex in the contest. He said that I should have sold my own tickets. "You don't understand," I said, "I hoped to have Sex on TV." He called me a show off.

When my wife and I separated, we went to court to fight for custody of the dog. I said, "Your Honor, I had Sex before I was married but Sex left me after I was married." The Judge said, "Same here!"

Last night Sex ran off again. I spent hours looking all over for her. A cop came over and asked me what I was doing in the alley at 4 o'clock in the morning. I said, "I'm looking for Sex." -- My case comes up next Thursday.

Well now I've been thrown in jail, been divorced and had more damn troubles with that dog than I ever foresaw. Why just the other day when I went for my first session with the psychiatrist, she asked me, "What seems to be the trouble?" I replied, "Sex has been my best friend all my life but now it has left me for ever. I can't live any longer being so lonely." and the doctor said, "Look mister, you should understand that sex isn't a man's best friend so go get yourself a dog."


Oldie but Goodie
I’ve read that a hundred times and it still cracks me up!
Rock On !
When the big dog barks , everybody howls .
 
9 hrs is long time without walk

You should consider hiring a dog walker- tons of them in SoCal- try to get a reference. I have a crazy Jack Russell that needs a mid-day walk- I get her a 1 hour+ group walk which costs $20/day- money well spent. Plus my dog walker was trained by dog whisperer and is good at providing more behavior adjustments too.
 
Kennel train it bro, its the only way!! I know plenty of breeders who only take their dogs out to exercise them, socialize them, and let them use the bathroom. Dont get a cage that is too big, you want one just big enough for them to turn around in and move just a little. I'd suggest not getting a cage more than 1 1/2 to 2x the length of the dog. I know it sounds cruel, but it'll potty train them. just make sure you exercise the dig and walk it, or let it out when you come home. also, as it gets older it will hold it for longer. Especially small dogs, they cant usually hold it long until they're a few months old

I agree with this 100%. I did it with my pup for about 6-8 months and it worked wonders!!! there will be the occasional time that you come home and there might be a mess in there, including on the dog and it'll be bathtime, but it will save you a long-term hassle of trying to potty train. They don't want to poo/pee where they sleep...that's why the kennel training works. :)
 
in addition, they also feel more secure in a smaller space than the 100sf area you have for it now. Put an old shirt with your smell on it in the kennel with the dog and things will work out fine! i promise!
 
Kennel train it bro, its the only way!! I know plenty of breeders who only take their dogs out to exercise them, socialize them, and let them use the bathroom. Dont get a cage that is too big, you want one just big enough for them to turn around in and move just a little. I'd suggest not getting a cage more than 1 1/2 to 2x the length of the dog. I know it sounds cruel, but it'll potty train them. just make sure you exercise the dig and walk it, or let it out when you come home. also, as it gets older it will hold it for longer. Especially small dogs, they cant usually hold it long until they're a few months old

Agree 100%
 
I successfully trained my chihuahuas to use pads placed on newspaper during the day when I was not there. This way they were relatively unrestricted in the downstairs of my house.

I eventually solved my problem by bringing them to work with me every day! Certainly puts me i a better mood at the office.
 

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