DUMPING MCAFEE!

[BOOMSHAKER]

Looking to get rid of McAfee off of my daughters laptop. Just about every damn virus gets past. Currently I have Malware and CCleaner on there. Between the both of those the laptop should be fine correct? My daughters always online chatting and downloading music so I want to make sure she is protected from virus attacks. Do I have to always check for viruses with Malware or will it catch it automatically?

Like I said McAfee isn't worth a dime anymore. And I just want it off of her laptop.


( i called Mcafee tech support a few weeks back for my pc and they charged me $80 and the F-N virus was still there. Downloaded Malware to my pc for FREE and the issue was solved)

 

[Nssca]

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[BOOMSHAKER]

DAYUUUM, all I wanted was a yes or no! Thanks brother.

 

[eltiburonasesino]

VIRUS ISSUES WITH MCAFEE

Looking to get rid of McAfee off of my daughters laptop. Just about every damn virus gets past. Currently I have Malware and CCleaner on there. Between the both of those the laptop should be fine correct? My daughters always online chatting and downloading music so I want to make sure she is protected from virus attacks. Do I have to always check for viruses with Malware or will it catch it automatically?

Like I said McAfee isn't worth a dime anymore. And I just want it off of her laptop.


( i called Mcafee tech support a few weeks back for my pc and they charged me $80 and the F-N virus was still there. Downloaded Malware to my pc for FREE and the issue was solved)

I agree that mcafee is junk and used it as my first virus scanner some 3 1/2 years ago and the detection for malware is crap because when I switched to kaspersky 2006 it detected 16 trojans that mcafee didnt . I use esat nod32 trial version and so far, I like it and may purchase the full version and also recommend this like the other member has because it is lighter on resources then kaspersky 2010 , although that along with avira are good also . A good firewall is also important like zonelarm that I'm using , and you can go to download.com to install the trial versions .. make sure your daughter scans every file before opening them because this was a problem with myself when I was new to using computers .

 

[BOOMSHAKER]

Out of curiosity, Symantec owns Norton and McAfee? Or just Nortons? I am NOT interested in it. I found them in the add/remove section. Was looking to delete it.

 

[icecap]

I have tried almost all of the antivirus & firewall security software and always go back to trend micro internet security, Fast and does not take up alot of space on my harddrive, a friend of mine works in a insurance company & told me about this software years ago.

 

[awelch]

bump for eset nod32 or smart security (nod32 is just the antivirus smart security is the whole package) It's the only thing I've used for years now and it's the best around picks up everything and it barely uses any resources you won't even notice when it's running

 

[BOOMSHAKER]

bump for eset nod32 or smart security (nod32 is just the antivirus smart security is the whole package) It's the only thing I've used for years now and it's the best around picks up everything and it barely uses any resources you won't even notice when it's running

Does that include the firewall and stuff like that?

 

[Kaiser]

Symantec owns Norton. Network Associates owns McAfee. Now let's separate the different versions of McAfee. McAfee Antivirus Enterprise is actually quite good whereas McAfee Internet Security and the McAfee.com bullshit is, well, just that, bullshit. From what I see in Enterprise solutions in tests Kaspersky is still one of the best, within the top 2, and McAfee stands at about 5 or 6, which still isn't too bad. Note, this is Enterprise however, and not the stuff available to normal public most of the time. I stopped using Kaspersky 6.3 Enterprise because its licensing was cumbersome and a total pain in the ass. Renewing or expanding licenses on a company was a nightmare, let alone inconsistent. It also tended to hang drastically when pulling something from a network server that had antivirus on it. Almost like it didnt wait its turn to scan an object and fought over it with the server antivirus. For these reasons I have left Kaspersky temporarily untilk they work this out. Not sure if this is fixed in version 7.0 yet, but I will try it soon as it the problem is easily duplicated. F-Secure Antivirus (not home use Internet Security) was my all time favorite up to version 6. Version 7 seemed to hang machines drastically even with local files. I also did not like that they dropped one of the main scan engines whhich was Kaspersky's AVP engine which of course caught just about everything. Updating on McAfee and F-Secure were always very fast, yet updating the definitions with Kaspersky was like watching pain dry. As for Norton, I look at Norton itself as malware as it is the biggest piece of shit I have ever used. If you guys wanbt to try a different trial version that was always awesome, try Sophos. In the end, I always held Kaspersky AVP and Sophos scan engines the best on the planet. Norman (NOT NORTON) was also pretty proficient a few years back.

 

[BOOMSHAKER]

If you guys wanbt to try a different trial version that was always awesome, try Sophos. In the end, I always held Kaspersky AVP and Sophos scan engines the best on the planet. Norman (NOT NORTON) was also pretty proficient a few years back.

So in a nutshell, we have three selections. ESET NOD32 anti-virus 4.0 - Kaspery AVP - or Sophos. Wich if any, if I had to lay down money for would you grab?

 

[Kaiser]

I trust Kaspersky's scan engine the most, let alone it's ability to find and remove rootkits. I would honestly go with Kaspersky if I was you. Install the trial and see how it goes. Make sure you fully uninstall any other malware detection software, including spam and spyware detection as Kaspersky has it all built in and will interfere with it's speed and abilities. Kaspersky ois also available by a 3 computer pack at only $59 so thats about $20 a PC.

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Note, they also went to a CRC check on files prior to scanning. What this does is, it allows Kaspersky to scan only files that have changed via CRC, so it probably has gotten faster as they just started that technology not to long ago and it should be perfected.

 

[BOOMSHAKER]

Kaiser, awesome brother. Last 2 questions.

1. My pc at home has McAfee on it. I have comcast so they give it to me at no charge. (until you need their shitty tech support then they charge you up the rear). Everyday my pc does a quick scan that comcast has built in. Can I get rid of it on my pc at home? And if I do will it try to redownload (selfinstall) once it tries to do the daily scan? (hope that made sense)

2. does Kaspersky have a firewall built in or do I have to get a seperate one?

Thanks.

 

[Kaiser]

Kaiser, awesome brother. Last 2 questions.

1. My pc at home has McAfee on it. I have comcast so they give it to me at no charge. (until you need their shitty tech support then they charge you up the rear). Everyday my pc does a quick scan that comcast has built in. Can I get rid of it on my pc at home? And if I do will it try to redownload (selfinstall) once it tries to do the daily scan? (hope that made sense)

2. does Kaspersky have a firewall built in or do I have to get a seperate one?

Thanks.

1. They have no control over your PC, so they cannot re-install it. It would also be illegal for them to do so unless you signed an explicit consent, of which you did not. Either way, yes you would need to uninstall it.

2. Being honest, especially for home users, I find that the normal XP or Vista firewall is perfectly fine, and very fast since it is built into the IP network stack. Sure you will have people complain about XP's firewall as it is outbound only. What they do not understand is that as soon as something gets initiated coming in, it takes a handshake or correspondence going out for the packets. Let alone, if you are behind a router, you have a built in SPI firewall within the wireless or non-wireless router itself by default. If you fear it, just simply download what is probably the best add-on free (well, at least it used to be free) firewall available, which is ZoneAlarm, and only install the firewall product, not the antivirus portion. Year after year, it still shows to be #1, as they are one of the first and have had years to perfect it. But as for your question, you would need the Internet Security version which is $79. I never liked Internet Security products, as they tend to 'overprotect' and hence invades your work by constantly nagging you. They also tend to be 10 times more of a resource hog. To top it off, when it comes to security software, never put all of your eggs in one basket. There are plenty of malware out there that have algorythms to disable certain anti-malware engines. If you have more than one product handling different chores, sometimes it pays off as it may only be able to shut one of the 2 down. Anyway, that's just my opinion, and consiquently the opinion on a lot of DoD networks as well. In other words, a defense contractor may have Sophos on its mail gateway, then F-Secure on their Exchange servers, McAfee on their workstations, F-Secure on their file servers, and Sygate firewall on their workstations. This is normal in large enterprise. The one thing you do not want is something that scans files at the same time. In other words, you do not want a separate anti-spyware program grabbing a handle to a file while you have antivirus grabbing the same handle. This will cause the kernel to constantly lock and time out, greatly slowing you down and even causing BSoD if crucial files are locked at the same time. Firewalls by default should just packet sniff and monitor ports. The file is not 'built' yet by the kernel so essentially is not a complete file yet, so normal firewalls and antivirus can exist on the same machine. Once the file is built and the packet sending is complete, the firewall lets go, and the antivirus scans the file.

 

[BOOMSHAKER]

Kaiser, as always brother you break it down for non techies like me to understand! Thank you.

And everyone else who offered up info. Thank you as well.

 

[Nssca]

You can't go wrong with what Kaiser suggests. He knows more about this stuff than 99.9% of the guys that I run into and ask questions from. But he doesn't need me to say that.

 

[Kaiser]

You can't go wrong with what Kaiser suggests. He knows more about this stuff than 99.9% of the guys that I run into and ask questions from. But he doesn't need me to say that.

Thank you very much Roost.

 

[T TOTAL]

This has been a great thread and given me some food for thought as on my PC i have AVG free. This has been recommended to me but im sure that when it scans, my computers almost comes to a stop...

I also have windows defender in use which was on the PC already...this also brings my PC to a halt....

I use XP Firewall to.

As for spyware/malware i use SuperAntispy Pro...Just upgraded to this last week from the free version as it was on offer for $9 or so.

So in a nutshell, i can keep using XP Firewall, keep using SuperAntispyware and look to change the anti virus???

Oh by the way im very nieve with computer...lol

 

[Kaiser]

Well, as I mentioned buddy, you might want an all in one solution for malware and spyware as using two at one time will usually cause you to hang since a lot of the time they both get a handle on the file prior to execution by the kernel. If both grab the handle, there is a timeout for scan since neither one of them have exclusive access and can neither one can successfully do anything with it. Once it timies out, it goes uses the FindFirstFile function to call the next one in the directory, which of course starts the whole process over again. That is my guess as to your sluggishness. Disable Windows Defender as it is useless and it also has a chance to lock your files. Uninstall your spywarer program and buy something that has spyware and malware protection all in one so you will have no more timeouts for execution. Oh, and AVG is not a bad antivirus, its just lacking in certain areas such as rootkit detection. Rootkits are instantiated by a kernel level driver that makes it so that antivirus programs cannot see and you cannot see via shell, registry and explorer the malware that you have. Further, the easiest way to remove a rootkit is to take the drive out and scan it in another computer if your antivirus has not rootkit protection/removal abilities.

 

[T TOTAL]

Cheers Kaiser, Going to disable the windows defender as im almost 100% sure its this that causes the sluggishness and suchlike when its running.

As for buying spyware and malware, i was under the impression the SuperAntispyware i just purchased was for them both...

 

[T TOTAL]

Actually Kaiser, just realised its Microsoft Forefront Security not windows defender thats running with AVG free. I think i'll still disable that though from what you said about running 2 anti virus programs unless you disagree with my choice??