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HCG

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the only delema i have that really bothers me is the size of my testes they have sufferd greatly while on cruise, ran outta hcg recently and my source no longer carries it anyone have recomendations they can vouch for. also are there other ways to bring size back to the testes besides hcg?
 
the only delema i have that really bothers me is the size of my testes they have sufferd greatly while on cruise, ran outta hcg recently and my source no longer carries it anyone have recomendations they can vouch for. also are there other ways to bring size back to the testes besides hcg?

Possibly clomid could help. If your not worried about having children then it shouldn't matter if they shrink. If you are wanting to keep them functioning then you may want to taper off and do an aggressive PCT and let them recover, come back to life. Probably not what you wanted to hear...............Any sponsor who carries it should be GTG for the HCG though.
 
id rather stay on my cruise and keep them in check with hcg.
 
Check with our board sponsors. There a few who have no minumum. You will pay out the arse for shipping if only ordering a little HCG though. Clomid is supposed to help with LH levels and get them, and or keep them functioning. I prefer HCG as well though.
 
Kin, What is your cruise cycle exactly includng other supplements and anti-estrgens?
 
As posted, Clomid will help a little. But nothing takes the place of HCG for testicular asthetics.
 
the only delema i have that really bothers me is the size of my testes they have sufferd greatly while on cruise, ran outta hcg recently and my source no longer carries it anyone have recomendations they can vouch for. also are there other ways to bring size back to the testes besides hcg?

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Can someone

explain to me what the main purpose is of taking HCG...i understand how it assists in restoring atrophy..but is it merely for cosmetic purposes..meaning guys that havea problem with how their testes look while "ON" take this so they look normal size?
 
Well..............

explain to me what the main purpose is of taking HCG...i understand how it assists in restoring atrophy..but is it merely for cosmetic purposes..meaning guys that havea problem with how their testes look while "ON" take this so they look normal size?

If the testes are atrophed when the cycle ends it takes even longer to get them up and running. If HCG is used throughout the cycle and somewhat keeps the testes from going completely dormant then recovery should be easier.

Now thats why my first post was worded the way it was. Is he worried about the longterm effect of the shrunken nuts, or is he just worried about small balls while on, and being with a woman, or looking in the mirror.

Being on HRT i have shrunken substantialy, but i had some to spare. So it doesen't bother me. If i was in the porn industry then i would need HCG to keep up my appearance. However i am not in that business unfotunetly(yet).
 
If the testes are atrophed when the cycle ends it takes even longer to get them up and running. If HCG is used throughout the cycle and somewhat keeps the testes from going completely dormant then recovery should be easier.

Now thats why my first post was worded the way it was. Is he worried about the longterm effect of the shrunken nuts, or is he just worried about small balls while on, and being with a woman, or looking in the mirror.

Being on HRT i have shrunken substantialy, but i had some to spare. So it doesen't bother me. If i was in the porn industry then i would need HCG to keep up my appearance. However i am not in that business unfotunetly(yet).

Thanks for the explanation...i'm on low dose test and i have noticed some minor atrophy at 250mg/wk but nothing major. So i haven't even looked into HCg..but i guess when i decide to come off it may be a good idea to add it in towards to end to kick start things as you mentioned. I myself have not broken into the porn industy but i'll keep the dream alive as long as i can
 
Thanks for the explanation...i'm on low dose test and i have noticed some minor atrophy at 250mg/wk but nothing major. So i haven't even looked into HCg..but i guess when i decide to come off it may be a good idea to add it in towards to end to kick start things as you mentioned. I myself have not broken into the porn industy but i'll keep the dream alive as long as i can

Doses even as low as 100mg a week longterm will shrink them over a period of time. I know from experiance.
 
HMG

I have been on HRT for some time now. Doc keeps me on about 200mg/week. My nuts had shrunk down to nothing (didnt really care), but recently however my wife and i decided to try for our second child, and I was on HMG. My nuts came back to their original size plus. That was about 8 weeks ago and still havent lost size.
 
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I have been on HRT for some time now. Doc keeps me on about 200mg/week. My nuts had shrunk down to nothing (didnt really care), but recently however my wife and i decided to try for our second child, and I was on HMG. My nuts came back to their original size plus. That was about 8 weeks ago and still havent lost size.

Is that only available via script?
 
Let me be more clear....

I did HCG and HMG. Now I have done HCG throughout the entire time i have been on HRT, and my nuts have never been back to their original size. I know there are plenty of guys out there that say HCG alone brings theirs back and i dont doubt that...evryone is different.

I did HCG at 1000iu/3xweek and HMG 75iu/3xweek. And yes this was all scripted by my doc as we have been trying to have a child. I aslo had an anti-estro on hand just in case.....

I am not recommending or implying that anyone take this dose or these medications without first consulting their doc.
 
Here's some good info on HCG.

I'm not the doc, but found this very helpful to me.

I advise my AAS patients to use small amounts of HCG (250IU to 500IU) two days each week, right from the beginning of the cycle. This serves to maintain testicular form and function. It makes more sense to me to keep the horse in the barn, so to speak, then to have to chase it across three counties later on. I am also a big fan of maintaining estrogen within physiological ranges. Both therapies have been shown to hasten recovery.

Any more than 500IU of HCG per day causes too much aromatase activity. Some feel aromatase is actually toxic to the Leydig cells of the testes. You are then inducing primary hypogonadism (which is permanent) while treating steroid-induced secondary (hypogonadotrophic) hypogonadism (which is temporary--hopefully).

If 250IU or 500IU on two days each week isn’t enough to stave off testicular atrophy, then I recommend using it more days each week (as opposed to taking larger doses). In fact, I wouldn’t mind having a guy use 250IU per day ALL THROUGH the cycle. Those that have tell me they thus avoid that edgy, burned-out feeling they usually get. They also say they simply feel better each day. Subjective reports, to be sure, but they are hard not to appreciate. Especially when HCG is so inexpensive.

The testes are then ready, willing and able to again produce testosterone at the end of the cycle. LH levels rise fairly rapidly, but endogenous testosterone production is limited by lack of use. I also want to make sure a SERM, such as Clomid or Nolvadex, is at effective serum dosage (around 100mg QD for Clomid, 20-40mg QD for Nolvadex) when serum androgen levels drop to a concentration roughly equal to 200mg of testosterone per week. That is when androgenic inhibition at the HP no longer dominates over estrogenic antagonism with respect to inducing LH production. Of course, if the fellow has been doing Clomid or Nolvadex all along the way (and I now prefer Nolvadex over Clomid, due to the possibility of negative sides from the Clomid), he is all set to simply continue it at the end (no need to switch from one to the other). BTW, I see no evidence of any benefit in using BOTH SERM’s at the same time. I used to think a couple of weeks of the SERM was enough; now I like to see an entire month after the last shot of AAS (and migration of long to short esters as the cycle matures). Tapering the SERM is probably a good idea during the last week, as well.

I want my patients to stop taking HCG within a week after the end of the cycle. The testosterone production it induces will further inhibit recovery, as will using Androgel, or any other testosterone preparation, while in recovery. There is no escaping this, as there is no such thing as a “bridge”. Just because you are not inhibiting the HPTA for the entire 24 hours does not mean you are not suppressing it at all. IOW, you can’t “fool” the body—it is smarter than you are.

I like Arimidex during the cycle (in fact, consider use of an AI while taking aromatisables a necessity) but it ABSOLUTELY should not be used post cycle (even though it has been shown to increase LH production) because the risk of driving estrogen too low, and therefore further damaging an already compromised Lipid Profile, is too great (this also drives libido back into the ground—and we don’t want that, do we?).
 
ok no one seems to accept discover card what the hell, I need hcg pronto!!!! theoretically speaking of course!! (HELP!!)
 

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