hey...hch vs igf-1 r3

[J-hoe]

i'm pretty new to the whole peptide thing and i'm just wondering why do people use hgh opposed to igf,igf is so much cheaper and they do the same thing as far as i know? thanx

 

[sammarbella]

i'm pretty new to the whole peptide thing and i'm just wondering why do people use hgh opposed to igf,igf is so much cheaper and they do the same thing as far as i know? thanx

So you don't know nothing...

 

[J-hoe]

this guys full of poo then

The anabolic effects of IGF-1 and GH are similar, since IGF-1 is what mediates most of GH's anabolic effects. However, you have to consider that people are using R3 and the doses are being shot IM (site-specific), which is going to give a much higher localized IGF-1 concentration than that which you'd see in response to GH induced IGF-1 level increases. The fat-loss properties are going to be almost exclusive to GH since for 2 reasons: 1) it's shot subQ 2) it has direct effects on adipocytes
IGF-1 should be shot IM. GH will give you more global and diverse benefits if shot subQ.

so they do the same thing except igf 1 is more site specific? ..right?

 

[sammarbella]

this guys full of poo then

The anabolic effects of IGF-1 and GH are similar, since IGF-1 is what mediates most of GH's anabolic effects. However, you have to consider that people are using R3 and the doses are being shot IM (site-specific), which is going to give a much higher localized IGF-1 concentration than that which you'd see in response to GH induced IGF-1 level increases. The fat-loss properties are going to be almost exclusive to GH since for 2 reasons: 1) it's shot subQ 2) it has direct effects on adipocytes
IGF-1 should be shot IM. GH will give you more global and diverse benefits if shot subQ.

so they do the same thing except igf 1 is more site specific? ..right?

Bold 1: Dose dependant...and time dependant.

You can't use IGF-1 LR3 for more than 4 weeks ED, after that receptors will be severely downregulated.

You can use HGH for months ED (even years) and have results, accumulative results.

The "anabolic" effect will appear only if you add AAS to HGH.(same for slin,igf-1...)

HGH or IGF-1 by themselves can do very little in the anabolic aspect WITHOUT concurent use of AAS.

Expensives fatburning drugs.

HGH can help with skin care also.

Bold 2: HGH metabolites stimule IGF-1 production in liver who will have systematic (and very short effect)...It's obvious that if you inject IGF-1 LR3 in a muscle...this muscle will have more IGF-1 LR3!

Bold 3: Have tried IGF-1 LR3 alone (without HGH) ED for 30 days at 66 mcgs split in 2 doses (2 mgs total)?

Try it and you will see what is fatburning...

Bold 4: Really? Why?

If you shoot HGH IM it will reach the bloodstream faster, so it will exert his action faster what is good after workout specially if you inject high doses (+10 IU) and you plan to inject IGF-1 and or slin later.

From a IM shot you won't have localized fatloss (obvious) but you will have systematic fatloss.

 

[maxititer]

IGF-1 is the primary mediator of growth

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Lupu F, Terwilliger JD, Lee K, et al. Roles of growth hormone and insulin-like growth factor 1 in mouse postnatal growth. Dev Biol. 2001; 229: 141- 162.

 

[sammarbella]

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Lupu F, Terwilliger JD, Lee K, et al. Roles of growth hormone and insulin-like growth factor 1 in mouse postnatal growth. Dev Biol. 2001; 229: 141- 162.

Growth to REACH adult stage from postnatal stage...in mouses.

What is the relation of this study and the growth (muscle cells hypertrophy and/or muscle cells hyperplasia) in adult humans BBs?