High E2 Levels

bg091593 · May 31, 2015

I received blood work back a few days ago with my e2 at 110, which explains the slight gyno, lethargy, and piss poor libido and sex drive. I was running a research Chems Adex. NEVER AGAIN. I started my bulk 8 days ago and am up TWENTY pounds. Clearly all water weight but nevertheless it makes me look and feel like ass. I've been on pharm arimidex at 1mg daily for 4 days now and the scale has only been going up. Started 1g test e and 500mg tren e 8 days ago when my bulk began... Diet is 100% on point, high carb high protein low fat... I guess my question would be when can I expect the bloat (and giant moon face) to dissipate? Am I a non-responder to Adex? Should I try aromasin? I'd hate to use letro in cycle in the chance it may destroy my sex drive. Im getting bloods taken again in 5 weeks once my test and tren have started to kick in. Let me know your thoughts and opinions.
Thanks guys.

mike036 · May 31, 2015

Tren will cause a false high e2 reading at labcorp .if you search around you will see this is true so your research arimidex might not be bunk .

mike036 · May 31, 2015

I know you stated you have only been on for 8 days using long esters .it doesn't make sense that you gained 20 pounds of water or anything else in such a short time especially when your tren e and test e haven't been in full effect yet

Knight9 · May 31, 2015

Aromasin is always the better choice over arimidex. Save arimidex, letro etc for when needing to do a show..they seem to be better at making you very dry.

bg091593 · May 31, 2015

I was on tren literally under 12 hours. It's 100% not a false reading. I forgot to mention the obvious source of water weight...anadrol. I was going to kickstart with 100mg Ed. The migraines made me cut it short after 6 days.... I was thinking about buying some exemestane but it's so expensive I wanted to give the Adex a chance to work.

metabz · May 31, 2015

Not sure which research chem source you used, but Researchstop is a sponsor here and their aromatase inhibitors are comparable to pharm grade based on my blood work.

Knight9 · May 31, 2015

metabz said:
Not sure which research chem source you used, but Researchstop is a sponsor here and their aromatase inhibitors are comparable to pharm grade based on my blood work.

I don't think they are anymore...but they are fantastic.

bg091593 · May 31, 2015

What would you guys do? Continue the Adex at 1mg Ed for a week or so no the. Reevaluate? I understand how Adex works, it's not instant, but how long does it take for the current estrogen build up to fade?

Jizzmo · May 31, 2015

bg091593 said:
I was on tren literally under 12 hours. It's 100% not a false reading. I forgot to mention the obvious source of water weight...anadrol. I was going to kickstart with 100mg Ed. The migraines made me cut it short after 6 days.... I was thinking about buying some exemestane but it's so expensive I wanted to give the Adex a chance to work.

that doesnt matter, it can still show up as e2 on some blood tests
and yeah what did you expect, anadrol pumps you full of water. its believe to directly act on the estrogen/progesterone receptor so you can take all the AIs in the world and it wont do anything for anadrol bloat.

bg091593 said:
What would you guys do? Continue the Adex at 1mg Ed for a week or so no the. Reevaluate? I understand how Adex works, it's not instant, but how long does it take for the current estrogen build up to fade?

no, you dont understand how Adex works

it does nothing for already circulating estrogen. it inhibits the conversion of testosterone into estrogen.
youll just have to wait until the estrogen thats already in your blood is gone.
you could take a SERM to avoid gyno issues at least, but imo thats not worth it anymore anyway since your estrogen should start to "die off" now (since there are no excess amounts being converted right now anymore, still theyre in your blood already)

bg091593 · May 31, 2015

Sorry but I DO know how Adex works, that's why I asked how long until the current estrogen drops...

bg091593 · May 31, 2015

That's strange about the anadrol bloat but some super good info to have! What type of, if any, dry oral compound could I use as a kicker next time?

the_gift · May 31, 2015

I'd use Exemestane over Arimidex, yes ...but most important for you to learn:

don't use important meds from sponsors ...it's 99,9% underdosed or crap ...remember the cabergoline = cialis shit?
Just get the real stuff.

bg091593 · May 31, 2015

Cool I'll run aromasin next time, expect a thread on that

haha... I have some caber too but was going to hold off until I get any sides. Good idea? Or start now? I've used prami in the past but holy smokes does that knock me out and make me want throw up all my meals.

Knight9 · May 31, 2015

bg091593 said:
Cool I'll run aromasin next time, expect a thread on that haha... I have some caber too but was going to hold off until I get any sides. Good idea? Or start now? I've used prami in the past but holy smokes does that knock me out and make me want throw up all my meals.

I don't mean to be harsh but do a search and read up. Read up on orals if you need a "kicker". You shouldn't really even be running gear asking some of these questions. It's YOUR body. Learn it and learn what you're putting in it.

Jizzmo · May 31, 2015

bg091593 said:
Sorry but I DO know how Adex works, that's why I asked how long until the current estrogen drops...

well nobody can answer that, i dont think anyone can tell you the exact half life of estrogen that was aromatized from testosterone, and you'd have to work in the testosterone ester and rate of absorption too...

bg091593 said:
That's strange about the anadrol bloat but some super good info to have! What type of, if any, dry oral compound could I use as a kicker next time?

there are plenty of dry orals, but you can easily find info on that on the AAS profile pages as knight says

bg091593 · May 31, 2015

No I agree and I do try my best to research the drugs im using. It's just difficult with the Internet being what it is. You can look at 10 different pages and read 10 different things about the same compound, regardless I shouldve done better so as not to look like an idiot

.... Tren can cause false e2 readings, so getting blood work done halfway through cycle would be pointless then? Or at least a female panel would be pointless**

Jizzmo · May 31, 2015

it only shows up as E2 on one of the testing methods.. ECLIA or whatever its called i think
there are different tests which can give you an accurate reading, however no idea if you can get them in the US

standard dry orals id recommend would be tbol or winstrol
im a fan of superdrol and methyl tren too, but theyre much more toxic.

fitzchivalry · May 31, 2015

metabz said:
Not sure which research chem source you used, but Researchstop is a sponsor here and their aromatase inhibitors are comparable to pharm grade based on my blood work.

Only research chem site I trust. Tried a few others due to price but always have not been up to par.

raw33man · Jun 1, 2015

the hardest part of bodybuilding for me is to balance ESTROGEN to be honest !!

now I understand why women are fucking crazy LMAO !

Testosterone, ehh I don't see a difference if it's 800 or 1100

ESTROGEN ? I see a massive difference in 25 vs 55