High and Low E2 symptoms

[Chembody]

Not necessarily

I asked my friend shes a iffbb pro and i told her is it estrogen related because i normally break out the worst ending a cycle when im about to start pct always that happens to me. She said It’s not an estrogenic side effect. It’s an androgenic side effect.

I agree with you but can you explain why you think its from estrogen sides? Thanks

She send me these two pages

 

[TheRoid]

It's gender specific. For females, androgens are the main trigger.​

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Serum hormone levels in men with severe acne​

Abstract​

In order to evaluate the hormonal milieu in young men with severe acne, we measured serum estradiol (E2), total testosterone (T), free testosterone (FT), dihydrotestosterone (DHT), dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEA-S), and sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) levels in sixteen male patients aged 20-30 years with severe acne, including twelve cases of nodular-cystic acne, and in seventeen age-matched normal controls. There were no significant differences in the serum levels of T, FT, DHT, DHEA-S, or SHBG between the patients and the controls, but serum E2 was significantly higher in the patient population. Thus, the hemodynamics of serum androgens in male patients with acne do not seem to differ significantly from that of normal controls. Elevated E2 levels might affect the inflammatory response of acne vulgaris through the release of thymic hormones, as reported in the literature.

Testosterone and estradiol serum levels in acne​

Abstract​

45 acne patients and 38 healthy subjects were assayed for serum testosterone and estradiol levels by RIA. The results showed that serum testosterone levels of male patients were normal, but serum estradiol levels were significantly higher (40%) than in healthy males.

 

[pistonpump]

Yes that's what I always thought but androgen is low when coming off so idk man, I've never got tested enough to figure it out

I asked my friend shes a iffbb pro and i told her is it estrogen related because i normally break out the worst ending a cycle when im about to start pct always that happens to me. She said It’s not an estrogenic side effect. It’s an androgenic side effect.

I agree with you but can you explain why you think its from estrogen sides? Thanks

She send me these two pages

 

[pistonpump]

It's gender specific. For females, androgens are the main trigger.​

​

Serum hormone levels in men with severe acne​

Abstract​

In order to evaluate the hormonal milieu in young men with severe acne, we measured serum estradiol (E2), total testosterone (T), free testosterone (FT), dihydrotestosterone (DHT), dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEA-S), and sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) levels in sixteen male patients aged 20-30 years with severe acne, including twelve cases of nodular-cystic acne, and in seventeen age-matched normal controls. There were no significant differences in the serum levels of T, FT, DHT, DHEA-S, or SHBG between the patients and the controls, but serum E2 was significantly higher in the patient population. Thus, the hemodynamics of serum androgens in male patients with acne do not seem to differ significantly from that of normal controls. Elevated E2 levels might affect the inflammatory response of acne vulgaris through the release of thymic hormones, as reported in the literature.

Testosterone and estradiol serum levels in acne​

Abstract​

45 acne patients and 38 healthy subjects were assayed for serum testosterone and estradiol levels by RIA. The results showed that serum testosterone levels of male patients were normal, but serum estradiol levels were significantly higher (40%) than in healthy males.

There u have it.

 

[Treadstone71]

Bump just interested to hear from others with their experiences

 

[KyleSmith1985]

High: Acne, moon face, gyno, slightly more emotional.

Low: Painful joints, muscle cramping, low libido.

 

[Treadstone71]

Do you guys normally get heavy eye bags with high e2?

 

[Machoman23]

high e2 : water retention, gyno symptoms, emotions are a bit off
low e2 : tired af can have a full 8 hrs sleep wake up and still feel like a zombie, my libido is tanked cant even get it up, joints are ached

 

[Treadstone71]

high e2 : water retention, gyno symptoms, emotions are a bit off
low e2 : tired af can have a full 8 hrs sleep wake up and still feel like a zombie, my libido is tanked cant even get it up, joints are ached

When you mention gyno symptoms are you referring to general sudden puffiness and flare up in size?

 

[Machoman23]

When you mention gyno symptoms are you referring to general sudden puffiness and flare up in size?

yeah my nips start to puff up, and even like putting on a t-shirt can sometimes be sensitive rubbing against the nips. i cant recall the last time ive had high e2 but as far as I can remember that's exactly what happened.

 

[Swifto]

I'm pretty sure I can tell when my E is too low.

Sex drive dips and elbows start to ache.

 

[BamaCrazy]

High: Emotional, fatigued, water retention, high BP from water retention, ED

Low: Dry achy joints, itchy skin, frizzy hair, no libido, dry emotions.

 

[A50#]

Possibly one of the worst places I've ever been in my life mentally was when I crashed E2.

 

[Tomgrass]

Crashed e2 : today second injury within 2 weeks - 1 pain in sternum area -pulled a muscle over there 2 : pulled left calve when i had to sprint. This on top of feeling like a zombie today and joint pains. Fun times.
Edit - anxiety and everybody pisses me off and forgeting things thats why i had to edit cause there is too many things to remember….

 

[Treadstone71]

Crashed e2 : today second injury within 2 weeks - 1 pain in sternum area -pulled a muscle over there 2 : pulled left calve when i had to sprint. This on top of feeling like a zombie today and joint pains. Fun times.
Edit - anxiety and everybody pisses me off and forgeting things thats why i had to edit cause there is too many things to remember….

You got any TNE or test suspension?
It’s a lifesaver when it comes to crashed estrogen ime

 

[BamaCrazy]

You got any TNE or test suspension?
It’s a lifesaver when it comes to crashed estrogen ime

And Dbol. I crashed mine with Primo and TNE didn’t help like Dbol did.

 

[pistonpump]

And Dbol. I crashed mine with Primo and TNE didn’t help like Dbol did.

I like dbol for low e2 it will help. Hcg seems to spike e2 also

 

[pimpman]

I never get any side from high e2 I must be an alien. My previous bloodwork few weeks back had me at 139.and everything function just fine. Low e2 I have no clue I’ve never have crashed mine.

 

[Siggy]

Do you guys normally get heavy eye bags with high e2?

I have had eye bags now for about 2 years, they arent small bags. It sucks, never used to have them. I have never ran ai but still never had eyes bags at all until a couple of years ago. I guess I should crush my estrogen and see if they go away because its annoying as fuck, makes you look older and it just looks unhealthy like I stayed up drinking or something. Im worried they are now permanent.

I hope its not something to do with kidneys, liver or heart. Could be.

 

[Siggy]

Has anyone else developed eye bags from any reason?