IGF-1 Increase from 5iu ED

[Kaladryn]

Before I started using GH, my IGF-1 level was 218 (normal range 109-284), after 40 days of 5IU/day (2iu first thing in the morning, 3iu PWO), my IGF-1 level is 264.

Does this sound like a consistent increase for 5iu/day? I'm getting some sides, my hands are half asleep for most of the night, and starting to tingle just from typing this.

I'm watching .com.cn greentop pinwheels DVDs direct from the kungfu master.

Any input appreciated.

 

[Quad-smack]

Well, you are getting upper-range normal from supraphysiological doses of GH - I would expect a little more.
Are you using slin or at least something to spike your own?

 

[PsyT]

how is IGF levels measured? Do they take multiple measurements? Isn't it possible due to the pulsate nature of GH that IGF levels would fluctuate?

just speculating here though I really don't know the dynamics of IGF in the human body.

 

[jm425]

how is IGF levels measured? Do they take multiple measurements? Isn't it possible due to the pulsate nature of GH that IGF levels would fluctuate?

just speculating here though I really don't know the dynamics of IGF in the human body.

Igf tests are done by drawing blood and doing an arginine drip.

 

[jm425]

Before I started using GH, my IGF-1 level was 218 (normal range 109-284), after 40 days of 5IU/day (2iu first thing in the morning, 3iu PWO), my IGF-1 level is 264.

Does this sound like a consistent increase for 5iu/day? I'm getting some sides, my hands are half asleep for most of the night, and starting to tingle just from typing this.

I'm watching .com.cn greentop pinwheels DVDs direct from the kungfu master.

Any input appreciated.

264 is pretty low for 5ius a day of hyge dvds. How long after did you get you get tested?

 

[Kaladryn]

I had the test Tuesday in the AM, shortly after doing my 2iu AM dose.

Starting about 6 weeks ago, I do 6 days/week at 2iu in the AM and then 3iu PWO in the afternoon with 8iu of Humalog. Sundays I take off completely, training and GH.

So before the test my dosing looks like this:

Monday-Saturday: 5iu
Sunday: Nothing
Monday: 5iu
Tuesday: 2iu AM, IGF-1 blood test a few hours later (fasting)

I can't imagine my IGF-1 level would drop much from that sunday off.

Note that I've been battling wrist discomfort that is pretty bad, like I said, they are half asleep most of the night. The GH seems pretty strong from that effect at least.

 

[jm425]

I had the test Tuesday in the AM, shortly after doing my 2iu AM dose.

Starting about 6 weeks ago, I do 6 days/week at 2iu in the AM and then 3iu PWO in the afternoon with 8iu of Humalog. Sundays I take off completely, training and GH.

So before the test my dosing looks like this:

Monday-Saturday: 5iu
Sunday: Nothing
Monday: 5iu
Tuesday: 2iu AM, IGF-1 blood test a few hours later (fasting)

I can't imagine my IGF-1 level would drop much from that sunday off.

Note that I've been battling wrist discomfort that is pretty bad, like I said, they are half asleep most of the night. The GH seems pretty strong from that effect at least.

No wonder why your igf levels are on the low side. 2ius of gh before the test will not elevate your levels much.

 

[123cctv]

Before I started using GH, my IGF-1 level was 218 (normal range 109-284), after 40 days of 5IU/day (2iu first thing in the morning, 3iu PWO), my IGF-1 level is 264.

Does this sound like a consistent increase for 5iu/day? I'm getting some sides, my hands are half asleep for most of the night, and starting to tingle just from typing this.

I'm watching .com.cn greentop pinwheels DVDs direct from the kungfu master.

Any input appreciated.

With quality GH, it should have been more. Thus, while the below is not the desired answers, they are however your likely choices.

1. Your test sucked and you or the doc's have read it wrong - doubtful.
2. Typical of Hyge's - they're by no means top of the line.
3. You've developed antibodies - not likely as your IGF levels aren't that bad.

As far as sides go, they vary depending on the manufacturer, or better said, depending on the manufacturing process. Yes, your side of "hands tingling" is a typical GH side. But again, this side doesn't demonstrate quality, it merely shows a portion of the manufacturing process was common (typical).

Personally - having tried and used various Gen's to script, I've learned the better the quality -- the fewer the sides I experienced. It seems some manufacturers have an extended list of sides, while others (I'm talkin legit companies) list only a couple. So again, it's the manufacturing process.

Now you just have to figure out - what company is offering quality OR up your dosages, however brace yourself for increased sides.

 

[Bobaslaw]

No wonder why your igf levels are on the low side. 2ius of gh before the test will not elevate your levels much.

No disrespect, but this is an incorrect statement.

IGF-1 levels do not fluctuate to any significant degree, remaining constant throughout the 24 hour period as long as GH levels are consistent.

This can be seen when reviewing serum GH and IGF-1 levels in patients undergoing HGH therapy.

In response to an ED HGH therapy, IGF-1 levels are shown to rise gradually over a course of 7-8 days, at which point they reach a constant plateau from that point forward as long as GH therapy remains consistent.

Simply, the response in IGF-1 synthesis is gradual to rises in GH and become consistent after one week. Thus it makes no difference in the OP's case at which point his IGF-1 testing is performed since he mentions his dosage has been consistent for approx 40 days.

Now, is the OP's IGF-1 level increase common for the GH dosage administered? Not as far as I have seen.

Without any degree of certainty of speculation I can only say that either the HGH has very low native potency, has been degraded due to conditions, or it's dosage has been misrepresented or misinterpreted (4iu vial vs 10iu vial?). Who knows, too many uncertainties, including possible individual physiological conditions that I myself cannot rule out here.

Personally, I have witnessed some generics only raising IGF-1 approx. 70ng/ml at a dosage of 2iu in certain individuals at a minimum.

 

[Kaladryn]

Great info guys, thank you very much, anyone have any IGF-1 bloodtest results on specific types of GH they would be interested in sharing?